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I don’t think Lemon needs any explanation, literally if you’ve ever heard of any Japanese song, you’ll come across this.

So what’s the deal with this を, I know it marks the direct object but we need a transitive or 他動詞 to be exact to do it and is the 取り here doing the job here? I know that shifting it into the verb stems makes it connecter like the て form but if that’s the case then we should be able to put に after 取り, に particle like が、を、で、へ needs to be connected to a noun. I do know that when shifting it to the verb stem it makes the verb into its true noun form and you put に after the verb stem of the verb to indicate the ultimate goal (meaning your goal is to do the verb that has に attached to it) but if that’s the case then を isn’t doing it’s job cause there’s no transitive verb(他動詞) for it. Either 取り is the て form but in this doesn’t make any sense why に can be attached to it since it can only attach to nouns or consider 取り as the noun version but in turn makes を completely meaningless.

I’m familiar with CureDolly’s explanation and I’ve watched the い stem video of verbs and do know that it can be the て form and the true noun form of the verb but can you simultaneously use it as a て form and a noun at the same time cuz it seems like it’s using both at the same time.

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This is a specialised use of the i-stem along with に to indicate "purpose of motion". The simplest verb of motion to use as an example is 行く:

  • Vに行く = go (somewhere) to do <verb>

In the case where that first verb is transitive, you can include its object in the syntax:

  • [OをV]に行く

The Oを part here binds to V, and the whole OをV subclause indicates what you're going to do. So, in your example:

  • 忘れ物を取りに帰る
  • "go back to pick up something I forgot"

取り here is neither a noun nor equivalent to the て-form. It's just part of the expression's syntax; just part of how the ~に行く (or in this case 帰る) construction is formed.

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  • The i-stem of a verb can be considered noun-like in terms of how it works grammatically - and the て-form is really just an i-stem plus て, with a sound shift. They're comparable to gerunds and gerundives in English, in my analysis. Commented Nov 6 at 22:59
  • Right, but to be clear, in this construction it cannot be said to function nominally (since it accepts objects), nor is it replaceable with the て form. That was meant to be the scope of my claim.
    – Ody
    Commented Nov 6 at 23:19

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