I'm writing a skit but I need a counter for bowls of ramen. ひとつ ふたつ somehow sounds weird. Is there a counter for bowls?
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Quote from 数え方の辞典 (which I have introduced here before):
ラーメン（拉麺）
数え方：本、杯（はい）、丁（ちょう）、玉（たま）
スープ・具・麺（めん）を椀（わん）や丼に盛ると「杯」で数えます。飲食店で注文を受け、景気付けに店員が「ラーメン一丁」のように「丁」で注文を数えることがあります。ばらばらの麺は「本」、1食分の麺の分量は「玉」で表します。
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@nkjt うどん[玉]{たま}にも「うどん[２玉]{ふたたま}買ってきて～」とかいいます。 fujimuraya.com/shopping/shop/udon/image/m0100l.jpg ←普通、これ位の大きさのが[１玉]{ひとたま}。ゆでてある「和そば」や、焼きそば・ラーメン用のゆで麺も、よく「玉」で数えます– user1016Commented May 13, 2013 at 19:57
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A very misleading answer for most J-leaners. One would need a near-native level proficiency to make use of it.– user4032Commented Oct 18, 2013 at 2:51
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@TokyoNagoya どう、どう・・・。(← I mean, "Easy", not "How")– user1016Commented Oct 18, 2013 at 10:44
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1まあ、OPがコンテクストを提示してないし、レストラン/ラーメン屋での会話だとも書いてないし・・・「一日にラーメン３杯食えます」って言ってるかもしれないし・・しょうがないよね～汗 ^^;– user1016Commented Oct 18, 2013 at 11:03
How significant is it when a Japanese learner says a word or phrase sounds weird? ひとつ、ふたつ、みっつ, etc. is by far the most often used way of ordering ramen in a restaurant.
玉 is the counter for the noodle part of a ramen, not for the entire bowl of ramen with noodles, soup, toppings, etc.
杯 is the counter for the whole thing --- noodles, soup and toppings. Some people use this counter for ordering ramen but it is much less common to do so than to use ひとつ、ふたつ、みっつ.
丁 is the counter almost exclusively used by the waiter/waitress to tell the kitchen how many ramen has just been ordered.
本 is almost irrelevant to the original question because it is only used to count the strands of noodle.
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1Come to think of it... we use ひとつ、ふたつ、みっつ when ordering coffee, udon, yakisoba, sushi, cheeseburger, french fries and... just about anything! (...except kushi-age and yakitori, maybe?)– user1016Commented Oct 18, 2013 at 4:03
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8“How significant is it when a Japanese learner says a word or phrase sounds weird?” What is this sentence supposed to mean? It sounds a little insulting. Commented Oct 18, 2013 at 10:22
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@Tokyo どう、どう・・・– user1016Commented Oct 18, 2013 at 10:45