We are using the textbook "Adventures in Japanese," and in class we got up to this activity:

Begin a conversation with your partner with the comments below. Your partner agrees, then gives his/her opinion starting with でも and using the ~ば~ほど pattern.

Example as written:

質問: 数学って、むずかしいね。


We spent like 15-20 minutes in class trying to figure out an answer that works: our sensei says there is something wrong no matter how many times we try to answer that we aren't realizing.
How I tried to answer:


other questions:


Any insight? Thank you.

  • 1
    What are you asking exactly?
    – istrasci
    Jan 13, 2014 at 2:19
  • Asking what may possibly be wrong, or if you could suggest responses to the questions using the ~ば~ほど pattern
    – nihonlover
    Jan 13, 2014 at 3:44

1 Answer 1


ほど is a word used to express degree. On the other hand, 読める is almost binary, if not otherwise qualified (either you can read, or you can't). Your answer seems to fall into this--either you can read the newspaper, or you can't. A newspaper is kind of a baseline thing (restricted character usage, style), and it feels like it would be all-or-nothing in English or Japanese. I agree with your teacher that something feels wrong.

How about these?

A: 漢字って、難しいね。

B: たしかに。でも、勉強すればするほど、漢字の奥深さが見えてくるよ?


A: お茶って、苦いね。

B: まあ、そうだけど、飲めば飲むほど、お茶の独特な味がわかるようになると思う。


A: 茶道って、つまらないね。

B: よく言われる。でも、練習すればするほど、なんだか、落ち着いていくんだ。

  • Hmm, I'm not confident about the use of ~ていく in the last sentence. Jan 13, 2014 at 7:53
  • 「てくる」を使って、「気持ちが落ち着いてくるよ」とか、どうでしょうか。
    – user1016
    Jan 16, 2014 at 12:41
  • 最初にそう思ったんですけども、茶道と長い付き合いのBさんのことじゃなくて、素人のAさんのことを指しているのなら、「~ていく」の方が適切のではと思えてきたのです。そのような使い方って、可能ですか?…それも結局Aさんが茶道を学べば学ぶほど、Bさんへ近づいてくることになりますけどね。 Jan 16, 2014 at 22:30

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