Timeline for How to understand 余りと and 以降最も多くなった。
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| Feb 3, 2018 at 1:13 | comment | added | user4092 | @Narktor That's the other way around. Quotation is just one aspect of function that と gives. | |
| Feb 2, 2018 at 23:57 | comment | added | Narktor | Thanks :=) But, if the と phrase does what you just described, what does this have to do with quotation? What is the thing/person quoted here? Contextwise, one could probably say that it is report of the ministry. But grammatically Im still having a hard time establishing this connection. The report is mentioned in the adverbial phrase between わかる and ことが, so I wonder how it could be quoted INSIDE the 多くなった part which is "ruled" by わかる. Or is quotation even legit in japanese when there is no specific reference point for a quote (e.g. a person, article etc.)? | |
| Feb 2, 2018 at 13:01 | comment | added | chocolate♦ | @Narktor ～と modifies 多くなった. The と relates to (最も)多くなった, not わかる. わかる only relates ことが. (i.e. The whole 「[日本で働く外国人労働者は去年１２７万人余りと]、統計を取り始めた平成２０年以降最も多くなったこと」 is the subject of わかる, literally "It turned out that (the number of foreign workers in Japan) grew to the highest ever since Heisei 20 , [the number of foreign workers in Japan being a little more than 1.27 million]. ") The ～～と part describes in what way/manner the number grew (=多くなった). | |
| Feb 1, 2018 at 23:10 | comment | added | Narktor | What do you mean by "The と is a quotative particle. Here it continues to （最も）多くなった." Do you mean that the quote marked by と extends up to 多くなった? Also, to which verb does the quotative particle relate? Is it わかる? If so, how does this work considering that there is also ことが attached to わかる? Or did I miss something and と is related to 多くなった so that わかる does only relate to ことが? Also, | |
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| Jan 31, 2018 at 6:45 | comment | added | Weijun Zhou | Makes sense. I now see what is wrong with my answer. | |
| Jan 31, 2018 at 6:43 | history | answered | chocolate♦ | CC BY-SA 3.0 |