Timeline for How do you pronounce を after a subject?
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| Nov 8, 2011 at 18:42 | comment | added | user458 | Another example showing Tsuyoshi Ito's point may be: that "子を持つ" and "こう持つ" are pronounced the same. | |
| Nov 8, 2011 at 18:37 | comment | added | user458 | Regarding the fact that, as pointed out by Tsuyosi Ito, "を" does no induce pitch change on its own, here are examples showing "を" pronounced with different piches depending on the accent pattern of the noun it is attached: "項を(移す)" or "(ラーメン屋の主人の)コーを(見かけた)" (KOoo, high-low-low), "香を(焚く)" (koOO, low-high-high). | |
| Nov 8, 2011 at 4:04 | comment | added | Tsuyoshi Ito | @龚元程: No native Japanese words use chōonpu. 帽子 is low-high-high, 大阪 and 大神 are low-high-high-high. I am sorry, but you do not seem to know the natural pronunciation of Japanese. You can continue to believe whatever you want to believe, but that does not change the fact. | |
| Nov 8, 2011 at 3:03 | comment | added | 龚元程 | Can we use Japanese words as examples? "ボー" should technically have 1 and unique long sound /o/ with no change in pitch. You're talking about dialects probably to give an English feeling. What about 帽子、大阪、大神。。。? | |
| Nov 8, 2011 at 1:54 | comment | added | Tsuyoshi Ito | @Axioplase: The pitch goes up between ボ and ー in ボーリング in the Tokyo dialect (ボーリング is pronounced as low-high-high-high-high). An example with downstep is デザート (dessert; low-high-low-low). | |
| Nov 8, 2011 at 1:50 | comment | added | Axioplase | @TsuyoshiIto: Falling pitch? | |
| Nov 8, 2011 at 1:29 | comment | added | Tsuyoshi Ito | @龚元程: You are wrong. For example, ボーリング (bowling) has a pitch change between ボ and ー in the Tokyo dialect. | |
| Nov 8, 2011 at 0:21 | comment | added | 龚元程 | I believe that with a chōonpu, the vowel is elongated so that there is no difference in sound between both kana. However with を most often there is a brief "cut" or at least change of accentuation: 「尾を引く」In this way 日本語を is not pronounced にほんごー | |
| Nov 7, 2011 at 22:51 | history | answered | Tsuyoshi Ito | CC BY-SA 3.0 |