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高低アクセント. Changes in pitch associated with a particular word. Does not include changes in pitch due to intonation.

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Pitch: Why for mom and dad is the 2nd syllable stressed but for aunt and uncle is the 1st syllable stressed?

I notice in the pitch / stress or whatever it's oKAA-san and oTOU-san but then it's Oba-san and Oji-san. Why? I'm not so familiar with this LH HL thing but I think it's: お母【LH】, お父【LH】 おじ【HL】, おば【HL】
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How to make yourself able to hear pitch accent? [migrated]

I have hit a wall in my study of Japanese: I am unable to hear differences in pitch accent. None of the other languages I am familiar with use it (those being Hungarian(native), English and French), ...
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Attempting to Parse the NHK 2016 Pitch Entry on ちょっと

When looking up the definition of ちょっと in a bilingual dictionary, it is given the possible pitch accent patterns of (i) atamadaka, (ii) heiban, and (iii) odaka. So which accent to use, in which ...
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勝手で pitch accent

I have always heard 勝手 and 勝手に pronounced as 平板. When preceded by another noun forming a compound 勝手 does seem to become 頭高, but I have recently come across 勝手で, standalone, pronounced as 頭高. Did I ...
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Pitch of 「見た目より」

Consider the sentence 鈴木さんは&見た目より若く見えますね。 Mr. Suzuki's not as old as he looks. According to my dictionary: 見た目 has Atamadaka pitch より is a particle (so should be down-pitched here) Yet ...
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ところ pitch accent

NHK seems to suggest there are two pitch patterns for ところ but they appear to come with different meanings. The word referring to physical locations seems to be 尾高 ところ\, e.g. いろんなところで{LHHHHHHL} The ...
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もう for "already" and もう for "another"

After studying the difference between もう and まだ (which seems clear to me now), I realize that there seems to be two different words spelled もう, which apparently have different pitch accents; high to ...
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When is 意外 ever read as 頭高?

I have always heard いがい{LHH}, いがいに{LHHH}, いがいと{LHHH}, but NHK日本語発音アクセント辞典 seems to list いがい{HLL} too, and the same goes for Wiktionary. I wonder if 意外 is really pronounced that way. What about the ...
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Why is the pitch of そう in 「そうですね」Atamadaka?

According to the NHK pitch accent dictionary, そう has Heiban pitch when used as an adverb (副詞): and Atamadaka pitch when used as an interjection: Question: Despite the above, the phrase 「そうですね」parses ...
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Does なぜ's pitch ever change in embedded questions?

I have always heard なぜ{HL}, but this one sounds like なぜ{LH} in 英語ベースの英語学習がなぜ間違ってるかというと. Am I mishearing it? I think most people say なぜ{HL} in both independent interrogative clauses and embedded ...
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Determining Pitch of 何より from Accent Dictionaries

I'm trying to learn how to determine the pitch accent of words from monolingual accent dictionaries. In this case the word in question is 何より, which can have Atamadaka or Heiban pitch. According to my ...
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Name 直人 pitch accent

Since 菅直人さん's name did come up in the news a lot, I thought I was pretty familiar with the pronunciation which I thought was なおと{HLL} but I seem to have heard this name (not 菅直人さん, other 直人s) ...
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Does the pitch of ある ever change?

Context: I've come across the sentence そんなわけあるはずない which I'm assuming parses into (そんな)(わけ)(ある)(はずない) and means something like That sort of reason existing cannot be! or more idiomatically: ...
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What pitch accent do Japanese native speakers apply to Classical Japanese verbs?

I was reading a tanka which appears in the Man'yōshū (my translation): 瓜[食]{は}めば子ども思ほゆ栗[食]{は}めばまして[偲]{しぬ}はゆ いづくより[来]{きた}りしものそ[目交]{まながひ}にもとなかかりて[安眠]{やすい}しなさぬ When I eat a melon, thoughts of my ...
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Pitch Accent Rule for -たり form?

Is there a general rule of thumb for determining the pitch accent of the -たり form of verbs? Are they related to the pitch accent of the plain past form?
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Pitch accent of 不幸 vs. 不幸の

1 Context 不幸 is listed in most (Japanese to English) dictionaries as Nakadaka with a stress on こ. The version of NHK I have also lists an acceptable pitch for it as Atamadaka (but NHK doesn't explain ...
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When should この世 be Heiban or Odaka?

Dictionaries list この世 as either Heiban or Odaka, presumably because 世 can either be Heiban or Odaka. Are there rules of thumb for when 世/この世 should be used in either its Odaka or Heiban forms?
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彼氏・彼女 pitch accent

I have always thought in 標準語 those two words should always be 頭高, as corroborated by several authoritative sources including NHK. But I have very occasionally heard other pitch patterns. This one ...
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Do Negative Downstepped i-adj's have accents on な?

Consider that 上手い is a downstepped i-adj (i.e., pronounced as うまい{LHL}). Question: What are the pitch accents of the following negative conjugations of 上手い? 上手くない 上手くなかった 上手くなくて 上手くなければ 上手くなる (not a ...
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Pitch Accent of てる / てない (Casual Speak)

With respect to pitch accent, the negative form of いる{LH} is いない{LHH}, while the negative form of ある{HL} is ない{HL}. But what is the pitch of their shortened versions when used in てる / てない ...
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Pitch Accent Rule for Verb Stems?

Are there known pitch accent rules or patterns for determining the pitch accent of verb stems? Things like: 見る ⟶ 見 殺す ⟶ 殺し 呼ぶ ⟶ 呼び 泳ぐ ⟶ 泳ぎ 書く ⟶ 書き 読む ⟶ 読み 死ぬ ⟶ 死に 走る ⟶ ...
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Pitch Accent of 何にも

I'm trying to understand the pitch of the sentence fragment それであたし何にもしてないのに... In particular "何にも" is giving me trouble. When I enter this word into OJAD, it shows as Atamadaka: But ...
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Can the か particle change the pitch accent of verbs?

Consider the Heiban verb やる. According to a video on Japanese verb pitch accent rules, Heiban verbs with no downsteps remain Heiban when conjugated to their negative form. Prosody confirms this rule ...
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pitch accent exception that changes from heiban to atamadaka (学校)

I am using the anki N5 and N4 vocabulary decks based on the 日本語総まとめ books (edition is ask). As far as I know 学校 is always heiban but in that example: 日本語の学校を見学します。 in the audio to me it sounds like ...
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織田信長 pitch accent

If I hear correctly, I think 豊臣秀吉 is とよとみひでよし{LHHHLHLL} and 明智光秀 あけちみつひで{LHHLHLL}. What about 織田信長? Is it pronounced multiple ways? おだのぶなが{LHLHHH} 1, 2, also the top one here おだのぶなが{LHLHLL} 3, 4, ...
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~番 pitch accent

I am aware 一番 bifurcates semantically with 2 readings. I am wondering about other number + 番's pitch in 標準語. When counting with the exception of 5番 which seems to be 平板型, the rest seems to follow a ...
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僕のこと, 私のこと pitch accent

I think the sources I have seen all list 事{こと} as 尾高型: ことを{LHL}. It seems to me 私のことが is pronounced わたしのこと{LHHHHL} and 俺のこと: おれのこと{LHHHL}. So my first question: are they always said like this or are ...
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Pitch accent of "たくさんの人"

I am trying to parse the pitch accent of the bolded phrase in the following sentence: 毎日、たくさんの人が秋夫の船にのります The word たくさん has pitch taKUSAn, while the word 人 has pitch "hiTO" (with the "...
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The pitch accent of なんの意味もない

I am not sure what the accent of なんの意味もない would become. I would guess it would be な\んの・い\みも・な\い. Because なんの is な\んの by itself (see comments for this particular audio). In this audio, I think it ...
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4月 pitch accent

NHK日本語発音アクセント辞典 lists 4月 as either しがつガ{LHHL} or しがつガ{LHHH}, but is しがつ{HLL} also said? Examples: 1, 2, 3, 4
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3月 pitch accent

NHK日本語発音アクセント辞典 lists 3月 as さんがつ{HLLL}, but it doesn't sound like a downstep on the first mora, but a bit like さんがつ{HHLL} to me. Are they both viable? Is the 平板型 version also possible? Are these ...
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ない pitch accent

This seems so basic, and yet it's been on my mind for a while. Standalone, it seems very straightforward: ない{HL}, しない{LHH}, いない{LHH}. But what about their pitch accent when used as subsidiary verbs or ...
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9時半, 9時 pitch accent

I can only find 9時 in the online NHK日本語発音アクセント辞典 which is only listed as くじ{HL}, and I assume for 9時半 it's くじはん{HLLL}: 1, 2, 3 But I seem to also have heard くじはん{LHLL}. (or is it くじはん{LHHL}?): 4, 5 ...
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Pitch accent differences between Praat and OJAD

I am currently trying to get my head around the pitch accent based on the following dialog and especially the marked sentence: 遠足に来ています。合う絵はどれですか。 女 いいわね、広々としていて。気持ちまでゆったりするわ。遠くに一本だけ見える木がまたいい。 … I'...
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ありがとう pitch and intonation

NHK日本語発音アクセント辞典 seems to only list ありがとう{LHLLL}. And I think the polite form is most commonly ありがとうございます{LHLLLLHHHL}? But I think I also hear what sounds to me like ありがとう{LHHHH} or ありがとう{LHLHH}. Is it ...
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愛してる: 2 pitch accent patterns?

I think I've heard both あいしてる{LHHLL}: (1, 2, 3) and あいしてる{HLLLL}: (4(this seems to be the same person as 3 with a different pronunciation of the same word), 5, 6) Are there any factors that determine ...
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Are some 平板 words actually flat?

平板 words are shown in dictionaries as having low pitch for the first mora, and then high pitch for remaining moras. I've read that in practice, the pitch increase from first to second mora is not as ...
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What’s the pitch of やっぱ (やっぱり)?

In https://sakura-paris.org/dict/%E5%A4%A7%E8%BE%9E%E6%9E%97/exact/%E3%82%84%E3%81%A3%E3%81%B1, it’s listed as [0][3] but for the most part I think [1] やっぱ is more common overall. Which one is it?
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意味的に pitch accent

I always hear 意味: いみ{HL} and 意味的に: いみてきに{LHHHH}. And I'm under the impression 的に heibanfies words. I think I hear 意味的に いみてきに{HLLLL} here, and wonder why. This guy seems to be a native speaking ...
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Pitch accent difference: 本当だ! and 本当だよ

I was under the impression that 本当 was 平板型: ほんとうだ{LHHHH}. And the exclamation 本当だ seems to follow this. But the addition of よ seems to change this, as I feel like I hear ほんとうだよ{LHHHLL}. Is that ...
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Is this 方言 or a different pitch pattern in 標準語: 出てくる, その他に

This is what I hear in this video: 日本神話に出てくる神様が一番多いです。その他に自然神だったりとか... I found でてくる{HLLH}, かみさまが{HLLHH}, and そのほかに{HLLHH} kind of strange, because I often hear でてくる{HLLL}, かみさまが{HLLLL}, そのほかに{HLLLL}....
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What are the accents for "頭高", "中高", "尾高", and "平板"?

The 4 pitch accent patterns are often spelled online as follows: 頭高 (atamadaka) 中高 (nakadaka) 尾高 (odaka) 平板 (heiban) However, when I actually look these words up in Japanese dictionaries (written ...
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好きな動物, 好きな学校, 好きな会社 pitch accent

It seems: 動物: どうぶつ{LHHH} 会社: かいしゃ{LHHH} 学校: がっこう{LHHH} Given that 好き is 尾高, すきな{LHL}, how are 好きな動物, 好きな学校, 好きな会社 pronounced? I think I hear すきなどうぶつ{LHLHLLL}, not sure if it's that or すきなどうぶつ{...
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みんな and おかね pitch accent in 関西弁

I think in 標準語 both words are 平板型: みんな{LHH}, おかね{LHH} I just heard みんな{HLL} and おかね{HLL} in a conversation among native speakers (younger generation, from various places), and wondered if they were ...
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おはよう pitch accent in 関西弁

I think in 標準語 it goes おはよう{LHHH}. I just heard someone from 大阪 say おはよう, but I wasn't sure it was おはよう{LHLL} or something else, but it sounded very different from 標準語. How is it pronounced in 関西弁?
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意思疎通 pitch accent

With 意思 being いし{HL} (頭高型) and 疎通 pronounced そつう{LHH}, I think I've only heard 意思疎通 pronounced いしそつう{HLLHH}, but since middle-low is not a pitch accent pattern, I'm starting to doubt my ears (which ...
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How prevalent is the heiban pronunciation of 見方?

It seems 見方 is another one of those words that have become heibanified, is that right? How acceptable or common is the heiban pronunciation (or as jogloran mentioned, 尾高型)? In this small pool of ...
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Is there a pattern for ず negatives?

I'm thinking of a particular word, 足らず, which I have audio of here, https://no.forvo.com/word/%E8%B6%B3%E3%82%89%E3%81%9A/#ja I'm thinking it's 足らず{HLL}. Is there a pattern to how the pitches of ず ...
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The pitch of はららか

I'm wondering what the pitch of the はららか in is: はららかに流す涙のように頬を撫でていった If I'm not dumb, the definition is: 静かに、はらはらと鳴る音を表わす (https://kotobank.jp/word/%E3%81%AF%E3%82%89%E3%82%89%E3%81%8B-2075765) ...
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How do you pronounce the name 直

In the given audio https://voca.ro/135zSkjYsgDP the girl is saying もう直ちゃん言い方 to 直ちゃん. It is about the 05:49 mark from 聲の形 if you watch it from the Bluray. If I understand correctly the ちゃん shouldnt ...
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