Questions tagged [pitch-accent]

高低アクセント. Changes in pitch associated with a particular word. Does not include changes in pitch due to intonation.

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Distinguishing meaning of 「 庭」 and 「には」aurally

In the sentence, 「私の家の庭には小さな池があります」 the sound 「には」 appears twice in a row. When listening but without any writing to inform interpretation, how will I know whether to interpret the first 「には」 sound as ...
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How does adding 自体 to a noun affect the accent?

Examples phrases: 料理自体 みそ自体 アメリカ自体 鼻自体 男自体 食べたこと自体 My intuition is that the noun and 自体 are said as two separate words, both of their accents being preserved. (I guess this would make sense ...
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Pitch Accent of ありがとうございます According to Forvo

One of the first things you learn in Japanese is that the proper pitch accent of ありがとう has the step-down after り (in standard dialect). But if you listen to the pronunciations on Forvo (and more ...
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Understanding how pitch accent changes in words, especially 和語

These words all begin with 花(はな↓), but they all have different pitch accent patterns. 花火 は↓なび (There is also 花火↓師) 花芽 はな↓め 花見 はなみ↓ (also, 花見↓月 vs 花見時 which is 平板) Knowing that the pitch accent of each ...
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一日二日 pronunciation

I was trying to determine the pitch accent for the phrase 一日二日 when it means "for a day or two" and realised I might not even have the right reading. I thought it would be いちにちににち, but then ...
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In what cases do 平板 verbs change their pitch?

I recently realized that 平板 verbs become 尾高 when there is a の after them. For example: 戦うの→たたかうの{LHHHL} 寝るの→ねるの{LHL} That really does happen right? Or am I mishearing? What are other situations where ...
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いつか日本に行きます。/ 五日日本に行きます。

Do these two sentences have the same sound? (The romanji are the same, but I am not sure about the stress). いつか日本に行きます。(I will go to Japan someday.) 五日日本に行きます。(I'm going to Japan on the 5th.) How ...
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Sounds of 大体 (Approximately) vs 代替 (Alternative)

Are the two phrases having the identical sound (including the accent)? 大体 だいたい (Approximately) (Dictionary: OJAD)  代替 だいたい (Alternative) (Dictionary: Weblio) I could not look them up in the same ...
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difference between 介護士 and 看護師

I learnt both of these words as an equivalent to "nurse". What is the difference in meaning between those two ? Also what is the pitch accent for 介護士 ?
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pitch accent for suffixes

I am trying to learn about pitch accent, and I have heard that there are rules for suffixes regarding pitch accent. Are there any resources where I could learn about those rules ? I am not yet able ...
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Interaction between pitch accent and mi-prefixation

I'm interested in the ways in which words that can be prefixed with mi- might vary in accent. For instance, both mi-kokoro and mi-gokoro are attested (albeit rare and highly archaic), but mi-kokoro is ...
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Pitch accent of 超自然的

The word 超自然的 seems to have a somewhat mysterious pitch accent. In WaniKani's audio (click the speaker icons) as well as in this random YouTube video it sounds like the accent is ちょうしぜんてき{HHLLHHHH}. ...
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Pitch Accent Confusion

Occasionally, I hear the pitch accent of phrases that should be heard as 平板型 end up not being this way. Some examples are 卒業して、それは、これは、気がする、私は、私が. All of these words and phrases should be "flat&...
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How to understand the pronunciation as listed in Wiktionary

Wiktionary has two transcriptions: 私 (Tokyo)¹ わ[たし]{——}² [wàtáshí]³ (Heiban⁴ – [0]⁵) IPA: [[ɰᵝa̠ta̠ɕi]] What is the 1st one called and how is it read? "Tokyo" stands for the Tokyo dialect ...
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愛する pitch accent confusion

I'm reasonably new to learning pitch accent. Started learning this year, as it was never actually taught in any form at school or university. I'm confused about why 愛する should have the accent on the ...
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How can I find the pitch-accent pattern for 頭高型?

I don't mean the meaning of 頭高型, but the pitch-accent pattern of the actual word 「頭高型」. I've found several pitch-accent dictionaries including the two OJAD sites (here and here), but the first site ...
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Higher amplitude in accented mora?

From ear, despite what the conventional literature tells me, I often hear that the accented mora has a higher amplitude, not just coming before the downstep. This is particularly obvious in This ...
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Pitch Accent Patterns with Pluralized たち Nouns

Curious if there are any general rules for the pitch accent for pluralized たち nouns. For example: 子供達 - the pattern seems to be こどもたち{LHHLL} 私たち - the pattern seems to be わたしたち{LHHLL} 自分たち - the ...
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Does the honorific prefix お/ご have an effect on pitch accent?

Does the honorific prefix お/ご have an effect on pitch accent? For example, can it make an unaccented word accented or an accented word unaccented? If this prefix does have an effect on pitch accent, ...
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Pitch accent websites differing for certain words

For the word 九日 (ここのか{LHHH}), both OJAD and weblio agree on the pitch accent of the word itself, but for the particle that comes afterwords (say 九日の), they differ by this: OJAD: ここのかの{LHHHH} ...
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Rise in pitch right before quotative って?

On the last mora of reported speech, right before って, I sometimes hear a high pitch (or maybe stress) where I would normally not expect one. If there is a ない in front of the って, for example, I often ...
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Are there any rules to the intonations they are discussing in this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpbOoSbnp5k I rarely if ever see anything like this covered in Japanese textbooks or courses besides the hashi (bridge) vs hashi (chopstick) discussion. Is there no ...
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ありがとう pronounced with heibangata pitch pattern?

I've always heard a lot of Japanese people pronounce ありがとう as ありがとう{LHHHH}, but I've never actually seen anyone talk about it on the Internet. People always say ありがとう should be pronounced ありがとう{...
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Pitch accent pattern for verb stem + な

I've only ever heard this form be used in the command "待ちな!" (Wait!), but just out of curiosity, I'd like to know what pitch accent rule(s) apply here. I thought I'd heard the above-mentioned phrase ...
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Pitch accent for ないで and なくて

When I listen to Japanese people speak, I usually hear them say ないで{HLL} and なくて{HLL}, with the pitch drop always placed on な, no matter the verb. But I might just be hearing things wrong. However, I ...
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What are some examples of three-mora atamadaka verbs besides 帰る?

I couldn't find a good way to research this on my own, I'm afraid. I'm not looking for a comprehensive list by any means (in before it turns out 帰る is the only one...), but rather just a few examples ...
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How to differentiate between 異常 and 異状 in speech?

I believe I roughly understand the difference in meaning between the two. However, as far as I can tell, they have the same pitch accent - 大辞林 lists them both as being [0], ie 平板. Would context always ...
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Pitch Accent for Honorifics

I have been studying pitch accent for a few months now, primarily from the NHK Accent Dictionary. My Japanese is not terribly strong, so it took me a while to muddle through the explanations and ...
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Can native Japanese speakers pick up a distinctive accent in people whose first language contains contour tones?

First of all, I am an American, and my native language is American English. My home language or first language, on the other hand, is a contour tonal language, with multiple tones, probably 4 or 5, ...
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What is the difference between the pronunciation of 「休校【きゅうこう】」and「急行【きゅうこう】」?

「休校【きゅうこう】」と「急行【きゅうこう】」の発音はどう違いますか。 よろしくお願いします!
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Pitch Accent for ~ない and ~たい

It seems to be a pattern for i-adjectives (in their "dictionary-form") to have low intonation on the first and last morae and high intonation in between, at least if they are three morae or more in ...
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Pitch accent of nominalizers

Do the nominalizers "no" and "koto" have recessive accent (i.e. no downstep) or downstep after the first syllable? Or are they enclitic (i.e. unaccented unless following a word with no downstep in ...
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Difference between おじいさん and おじさん

I'm wondering if there is much difference in the pronunciation of the words or intonation of them. Is it just the long vowel?
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Pronunciation Troubles with トラブル and トラブる: Loanwords with both noun and verb ending in ru mora

Following this comment: What is the difference in pronunciation or pitch accent between: トラブル and トラブる ダブル and ダブる What are the regional differences (if any)? Is the pronunciation rule ...
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'mo' and 'demo' pronunciation research

I am looking for a native speaker who could answer the following question: Is there any difference in pronunciation of the morpheme 'mo' in the following words (are there any differences in tone)? ...
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Pitch accent variations within giongo words like ふわふわ

According to the NHK Accent dictionary, the pitch accent for ふわふわ can be: (a) ふわふわ {HLLL} or (b) ふわふわ {LHHH} It is (a) when する is attached and it is (b) when used as a simple adjective. First, ...
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Am I hearing the pitch accent of “家具売り場” correctly?

I was watching the anime K-On and came across this sentence: えっと家具売り場は… https://instaud.io/_/2JFq.mp3 They were at a big store, wanted to buy a shelf and were looking for where they sell furniture. ...
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Different pitch accent patterns of もっとも?

The word もっとも has a few different uses. For example, jisho.org lists the following: 最も(もっとも) Adverb most; extremely Other forms 最も ​【もとも​】、尤も ​【もっとも​】、尤も ​【もとも​】 尤も(もっとも) Conjunction but then; ...
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Pitch accent in combination with the を particle

I learnt that a word like 花 (はな) is of pitch pattern (2), i.e. with a drop after the last mora in case it is followed by a particle. Yet, when I hear people use a word like this is combination with ...
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Is there a historical explanation why verbs fall into two categories of pitch accent?

Is there a good historical or logical explanation why all verbs fall into two categories of pitch accent: either accentless (such as 買う, 浴びる) or accented (such as 食べる, 書く)? I am having a hard time ...
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Can somebody give me the right pitch accent for the following verbal forms?

Can somebody give me the right pitch accent for the following verbal forms? As they are verbs, they should all be either accentless or accented on the penultimate syllable (although I am not sure how ...
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How do you find pitch accent? Is it important?

I've seen some people say it is unecessary to learn pitch accent, but with my current knowledge, there are multiple ways to say a word with pitch accent and if you don't know the pitch accent, the ...
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Pitch accent for numbers?

I haven't been able to find a good source online, so I'm asking you guys. What is the pitch-accent rule for numbers? Is 十五 (じゅうご) a 0 or a 1 or a 3 or what? Is there a general pattern? I realize that ...
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Word lists/sources for pitch accent in Middle Japanese

Is there anywhere I can find a list of words and what their reconstructed pitches were in Middle Japanese? Or especially what words we have tone dot information on (with a preference for the oldest ...
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Why is that sometimes I hear kudasai (with d) pronounced as kurasai (a slight r sound)?

Here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMgXlcgj8Y8&t=61s I'm a Chilean-born Taiwanese, so I'm not sure if my ears are confusing things. Or maybe this is due different Japanese ...
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What is the correct pitch accent for ううん?

For ううん to express negation, Weblio gives the pitch accent as 【2】, i.e. ううん 【LHL】 However, (to me) this doesn't sound like how people actually pronounce the word. I've always thought that it ...
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Doesn't 助けて follow the usual pitch accent rule?

助ける itself is ③, so according to the rule 助けて would become ② as 逃れる 休める etc. do. However, I myself find it extremely unnatural to say たすけて in ② rather than ③, and as I tried it on my iPhone, iOS ...
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Specific examples of tonal Chinese words rendered into Japanese

It is often said that Japanese contains a large number of homonyms because there was no way to render tonal Chinese words into Japanese. This makes complete sense. But I am looking for specific ...
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アクセントに関する質問:「韓国」vs「韓国人・韓国語」

「韓国」はアクセントが頭に来ます。 「韓国人・韓国語」など、国の名称の後もう一文字が付く場合は全体的にフラットなアクセントになります。 それ以外にも例はありますが、そうなる理由がよく分かりません。 みんなそうやってるから私も従っていますが、説明しろと言われたら出来ません。 何か法則があるのでしょうか? ではなく単純に発音しやすいからでしょうか? *最初は「英国」「米国」...
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What is the difference in pronunciation between [桃]{もも} and [腿]{もも}?

I am currently studying 日本語 and I am trying to understand the pronunciation difference between 桃 (peach) and 腿 (thigh). Both can be written as もも in kana and sound practically the same to me when my ...