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高低アクセント. Changes in pitch associated with a particular word. Does not include changes in pitch due to intonation.

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What are some examples of three-mora atamadaka verbs besides 帰る?

I couldn't find a good way to research this on my own, I'm afraid. I'm not looking for a comprehensive list by any means (in before it turns out 帰る is the only one...), but rather just a few examples ...
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How to differentiate between 異常 and 異状 in speech?

I believe I roughly understand the difference in meaning between the two. However, as far as I can tell, they have the same pitch accent - 大辞林 lists them both as being [0], ie 平板. Would context always ...
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Pitch Accent for Honorifics

I have been studying pitch accent for a few months now, primarily from the NHK Accent Dictionary. My Japanese is not terribly strong, so it took me a while to muddle through the explanations and ...
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Can native Japanese speakers pick up a distinctive accent in people whose first language contains contour tones?

First of all, I am an American, and my native language is American English. My home language or first language, on the other hand, is a contour tonal language, with multiple tones, probably 4 or 5, ...
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What is the difference between the pronunciation of 「休校【きゅうこう】」and「急行【きゅうこう】」?

「休校【きゅうこう】」と「急行【きゅうこう】」の発音はどう違いますか。 よろしくお願いします!
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Pitch Accent for ~ない and ~たい

It seems to be a pattern for i-adjectives (in their "dictionary-form") to have low intonation on the first and last morae and high intonation in between, at least if they are three morae or more in ...
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Pitch accent of nominalizers

Do the nominalizers "no" and "koto" have recessive accent (i.e. no downstep) or downstep after the first syllable? Or are they enclitic (i.e. unaccented unless following a word with no downstep in ...
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Pronunciation Troubles with トラブル and トラブる: Loanwords with both noun and verb ending in ru mora

Following this comment: What is the difference in pronunciation or pitch accent between: トラブル and トラブる ダブル and ダブる What are the regional differences (if any)? Is the pronunciation rule ...
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'mo' and 'demo' pronounciation research

I am looking for a native speaker who could answer the following question: Is there any difference in pronunciation of the morpheme 'mo' in the following words (are there any differences in tone): ...
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Pitch accent variations within giongo words like ふわふわ

According to the NHK Accent dictionary, the pitch accent for ふわふわ can be: (a) ふわふわ {HLLL} or (b) ふわふわ {LHHH} It is (a) when する is attached and it is (b) when used as a simple adjective. First, ...
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Am I hearing the pitch accent of “家具売り場” correctly?

I was watching the anime K-On and came across this sentence: えっと家具売り場は… https://instaud.io/_/2JFq.mp3 They were at a big store, wanted to buy a shelf and were looking for where they sell furniture. ...
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Different pitch accent patterns of もっとも?

The word もっとも has a few different uses. For example, jisho.org lists the following: 最も(もっとも) Adverb most; extremely Other forms 最も ​【もとも​】、尤も ​【もっとも&#...
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Pitch accent in combination with the を particle

I learnt that a word like 花 (はな) is of pitch pattern (2), i.e. with a drop after the last mora in case it is followed by a particle. Yet, when I hear people use a word like this is combination with ...
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Is there a historical explanation why verbs fall into two categories of pitch accent?

Is there a good historical or logical explanation why all verbs fall into two categories of pitch accent: either accentless (such as 買う, 浴びる) or accented (such as 食べる, 書く)? I am having a hard time ...
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Can somebody give me the right pitch accent for the following verbal forms?

Can somebody give me the right pitch accent for the following verbal forms? As they are verbs, they should all be either accentless or accented on the penultimate syllable (although I am not sure how ...
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How to tell if a word is 平板式 or 起伏式

I am a beginner learner. Every time I see a new word, I wonder if its pitch accent is 平板型, 頭高型, 中高型, or 尾高型. Looking up at a dictionary is always helpful, but sometimes not convenient. Is there any ...
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How do you find pitch accent? Is it important?

I've seen some people say it is unecessary to learn pitch accent, but with my current knowledge, there are multiple ways to say a word with pitch accent and if you don't know the pitch accent, the ...
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Pitch accent for numbers?

I haven't been able to find a good source online, so I'm asking you guys. What is the pitch-accent rule for numbers? Is 十五 (じゅうご) a 0 or a 1 or a 3 or what? Is there a general pattern? I realize that ...
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Word lists/sources for pitch accent in Middle Japanese

Is there anywhere I can find a list of words and what their reconstructed pitches were in Middle Japanese? Or especially what words we have tone dot information on (with a preference for the oldest ...
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Why is that sometimes I hear kudasai (with d) pronounced as kurasai (a slight r sound)?

Here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMgXlcgj8Y8&t=61s I'm a Chilean-born Taiwanese, so I'm not sure if my ears are confusing things. Or maybe this is due different Japanese ...
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What is the correct pitch accent for ううん?

For ううん to express negation, Weblio gives the pitch accent as 【2】, i.e. ううん 【LHL】 However, (to me) this doesn't sound like how people actually pronounce the word. I've always thought that it ...
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Doesn't 助けて follow the usual pitch accent rule?

助ける itself is ③, so according to the rule 助けて would become ② as 逃れる 休める etc. do. However, I myself find it extremely unnatural to say たすけて in ② rather than ③, and as I tried it on my iPhone, iOS ...
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Specific examples of tonal Chinese words rendered into Japanese

It is often said that Japanese contains a large number of homonyms because there was no way to render tonal Chinese words into Japanese. This makes complete sense. But I am looking for specific ...
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アクセントに関する質問:「韓国」vs「韓国人・韓国語」

「韓国」はアクセントが頭に来ます。 「韓国人・韓国語」など、国の名称の後もう一文字が付く場合は全体的にフラットなアクセントになります。 それ以外にも例はありますが、そうなる理由がよく分かりません。 みんなそうやってるから私も従っていますが、説明しろと言われたら出来ません。 何か法則があるのでしょうか? ではなく単純に発音しやすいからでしょうか? *最初は「英国」「米国」...
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What is the difference in pronunciation between [桃]{もも} and [腿]{もも}?

I am currently studying 日本語 and I am trying to understand the pronunciation difference between 桃 (peach) and 腿 (thigh). Both can be written as もも in kana and sound practically the same to me when my ...
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If Kanji are necessary to disambiguate homophones, how come it's still used, being that Japanese people seem to know the difference when speaking?

I'm a beginner. People argue for Kanji being that it helps disambiguate homophones in written Japanese, but in spoken Japanese, kanji (or any other visual aid) are not available, yet people seem to ...
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Japanese pitch accent in songs

Do Japanese (pop) songs usually preserve pitch accent (so that the words have to be chosen in accordance with the melody, just the words in English songs have to match the meter) or does it get ...
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Pitch accent of months?

I'm having some trouble identifying a pattern/rule in the pitch accent for months. For example, the 4-mora, 2-kanji 三月 is HLLL (頭高) while 六月、七月、八月、十月 are LHHH (平板/尾高). (As is usually the case.) For ...
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How do I find the right meaning of homonyms 同音異義語 via audio?

Japanese has a lot of homonyms and sometimes one has more than 10 meanings. When I heard the following sentences on the phone or a radio. How do I deal with it? はしのはしですか? きのう、かきをたべたけどあまりおいしくなかった ...
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Is there any difference when pronouncing 橋 and 箸?

I once heard from my friend that the two words: 橋 and 箸 have different stress (stress falling on the first/second syllable). Is that true?
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Omitting half of a letter in Japanese

Specifically when transcribing foreign words into katakana, it is often implied that half of a letter is dropped in pronunciation. Take for example メルボルン, the Japanese import of the Australian city ...
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How to pronounce the English alphabet? (A, B, C, …)

I just had to tell a long booking number over the phone, and realized that some characters like V/B can be hard to convey. So, I want to learn exactly how each letter is currently taught in Japanese ...
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When does pitch accent reset?

My understanding of phrase-level Japanese pitch accent is that each "unit" initially has low pitch, followed by high pitch (LH), then a drop after the accented syllable, if there is one. As such, ...
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Multiple Pitch Accents

I tried using an anki plugin (https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/932119536) to display the pitch accent of words I'm learning. Some of the words I tried entering showed multiple possibilities for the ...
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What's the pitch accent of すなわち?

As in title, what's the pattern of the pitch accent in the word すなわち, in the Tokyo (standard) pronunciation?
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About the surname Yos(h)ida

I have recently bumped into the Japanese mathematician 吉田{よしだ}耕筰{こうさく}. I was wondering two things about his surname: Why is it so often spelt Yosida instead of Yoshida? And taking lead from it, when ...
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Location of pitch-accent on conjugated auxiliary verbs

I've been using online tools to learn the pitch-accent rules that affect verb and adjective conjugation, and memorising the rules that govern how conjugation affects the location of the accent in ...
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What are the pitch-accent rules for compound nouns?

I've been trying to learn the pitch-accent of standard Japanese, but this is more difficult as it should be as it's hard to find good learning resources that provide proper descriptions of how the ...
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Questions regarding the pitch accent of 僕

First: When you call a young boy ぼく, is it LH or HL? Second: When do boys saying 僕 move from LH to HL? Third: When voice actors voice young characters, do they use HL or LH?
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Pronunciation of Ōsaka / 大阪 / おおさか / オオサカ

Is the difference in pronunciations of Ōsaka in Google Translate different for the same reasons as "Sayaka" ? I acknowledge this may be a dupe.
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Idina Menzel pronounces “Sayaka” ( 沙也加 )?

In this video, Idina Menzel says "My friend, Sayaka." She gives emphasis to the YA which seems to be similar to this review of the anime School Days wherein the reviewer says "MaKOto" and "KaTSUra". ...
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The origins and mechanics of pitch accent in SJ compounds

For the past few months I've been researching pitch accent in Japanese off and on, concentrating on trying to identify regularities in a phenomenon which is nearly completely arbitrary. I've not seen ...
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Beginner miscomprehension of spoken Japanese - finding wrong word boundaries

As a beginner of Japanese, I very often I don't understand or completely misunderstand spoken Japanese - even if I know every word in the sentence, and may have recognized it in different context. ...
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Difference between んい and に

I noticed that the word 単位 is written as たんい in hiragana, not たに. Is there a difference in the way んい and に are pronounced? If so, does the same principle go for んあ and な, んえ and ね, etc.?
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The genesis of pitch accent in Japanese

There is a significant amount of research relating to tonogenesis -- the mechanisms by which a toneless parent language develops tone. But what about the genesis of pitch accent? For instance, the ...
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is “こっかい” a heteronym?

I recently boasted to a native speaker that I can pronounce Japanese with a high degree of precision, while he has trouble with pronouncing the "L" sound in English. Later in the discussion he stopped ...
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How do you pronounce みずうみ? (lake)

I was wondering, I learnt an う lengthens the sound before it. When I learnt the word みずうみ I thought it is a long u and saw it as a whole new word, but I noticed みずうみ exists of 2 words: みず (water) and ...
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Accent changes in conjugation

I find that Japanese pitch accent seems to have some sort of interaction with the morphology. For example, 早い is pronounced [はやい]{LHL}, but 早く is pronounced [はやく]{HLL}. Are these changes regular? No ...
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Why is debug デバッグ but bug is バグ?

I'm interested in why the extra small tsu in included in the word デバッグ but not バグ. Are there any rules governing voicing in words formed via reduplication? Lyman's rule may explain this, but does ...
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Pitch accent of まんまと

I recently looked up the word まんまと in 大辞林. The pitch accent is marked 13. I don't understand what that means, so I decided to look it up in the explanatory notes, which I'll attempt to summarize ...