Questions tagged [particle-の]

助詞「の」. Genitive case particle showing relationships between two nouns, such as possession. Also used for apposition (同格), to indicate subjects in relative clauses, and as a nominalizing particle (準体助詞).

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What is the meaning of ~んです/~のだ/etc?

This sentence ending has started to creep up more and more in my current Japanese classes, and I'm still a bit unsure what all it can mean, how to use it, or even when I should think to use it. My ...
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How does the の work in 「日本人の知らない日本語」?

I've read that 日本人の知らない日本語 translates to: "Japanese (language) that Japanese (people) don't know". But I don't understand how or what the の does in that sentence. If I'm not mistaken 知らない日本語 could ...
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Is ending question sentences with の really feminine?

In What differences should I look out for between male vs female speech?, a lot of answers explicitly mention that ending question sentences with の is feminine. However, this makes very little sense ...
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So-called の-adjectives - how does の *really* work?

Ok, so there seems to be some controversy over whether we can really say that there are 'の-adjectives', or whether we simply use a noun in an "attributive" way (a term which I don't actually really ...
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If Vて+いる isn't a gerund, then what is it?

I always thought that a verb ending in the て form along with the いる suffix was the English equivelent of the "ing" form of a verb. Thus: see = 見{み}る, seeing = 見{み}ている do = する, doing = している ...
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What is the significance of の in 「鳥の詩」?

I've seen it used in many places, and sometimes it feels like a connection between words. For example in 「鳥の詩」 (tori no uta), it looks as if the の is connecting 鳥 (tori) and 詩 (uta), and I would like ...
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Blue blistering barnacles, what is Captain Haddock saying?

For those who might not be familiar with the series Tintin (soon to be in a major motion picture, by the way), there is a character named Captain Haddock who is famous for shouting out colourful ...
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What is the role of の in 「お父さんのバカ!」

How did the の get in the expression 「◯◯のバカ!」? Was the expression originally longer? Is there any other example of usage other than insults? (other example I know of: 「つよし君のエッチ!」 or anything to the ...
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When to use 他【ほか】の or 他【ほか】に

I always thought only 他の existed, but my teacher uses 他に a lot. Are there differences between when each can be used? Here are two examples of each from my online dictionary: だれかほかの人に聞いてごらん (Ask ...
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What is the difference between は and のは?

The following sentence means "seeing all the different foreign people was interesting." This, according to my Japanese friends is incorrect: 色々な外国人を見ているは面白かった。 ... and this is correct: ...
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Meaning of のだろう?

I'm not sure when should I use particle の in front of だろう/でしょう? Is のだろう used when the speaker wonders about something to himself? For example, what would be the translation of these sentences: 日本は、...
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Contraction of particle の to ん before nouns in colloquial Japanese

I am familiar with contraction of の to ん before です (and variants で, だ, でした etc) but I noticed that の is also contracted before 家 in spoken set-phrases like あたしんち and おれんち. Are there any other ...
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Can I use more than one possessive の in a row in the same sentence?

I already know the main usages of の as said here, but I was wondering: If I want to use the possessive indicator in a row, is it correct? For example, if I wanted to say "My family's car is blue.", ...
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相手の日本人 or 日本人の相手?

If I wanted to describe the person I was speaking about as being Japanese, to me it seems natural to say: 日本人{にほんじん}の相手{あいて} ... however, one time a Japanese teacher told me it's more correct to ...
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Confusing use of の

I'm trying to read a children's book and had some trouble with one sentence. As I understand the story so far, it's about a depressed snail. But I don't quite understand what's going on here. ...
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Are possessive particles implied in a conversation?

Today, in my Japanese class, my sensei presented a conversation which went as the following: Person A: Bさんのせんこうはなんですか。 Person B: コンピューターかがくです。 Person A: わたしもコンピューターかがくです。 My confusion comes on the ...
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Difference between か and のか

I am going through 'All About Particles', and came across the following two sentences: なぜ彼がそんなことをやったか、わかりません。 どうして彼女がそんなつまらない本を読んでいるのか、不思議です。 What is the difference between using か in the first one ...
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How should I view でより and でのより?

My basic understanding of より to compare things or ending letters, is failing me when there's a で or での in front of it. As I write this, I'm wondering, can read でより as "with, more", "in, more"? ...
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using の with と,で, から, まで

http://www.shiro.jp.net/2013/10/tono-deno-kakrano-madenoeno-learning.html This page explains that a noun with と, で, から, まで that modifies another noun must have の attached to them as in: ...
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Can んだった and んじゃなかった be used like the past version of んだ and んじゃない?

I know that んだった and んじゃなかった can be used to say "Should have done" and "Shouldn't have done". I am wondering, however, if they can be used as a past version of んだ Take for example ...
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Function of の particle in the title 「進撃の巨人」

I came across the anime/manga title 「進撃の巨人」 and I am a bit confused about the usage of the の particle there. I know that の has several uses, but I'm not sure which one applies in this case. I looked ...
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Why isn't 日本料理 written as 日本の料理?

Both 日本 and 料理{りょうり} are nouns but why aren't they concatenated with の? I think it should be written as 日本の料理 rather than 日本料理.
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Use of Adjective + のも

さらに冬になれば雪が積もって交通の便が悪いし、暮らすにはいささか苦労が多いのも難点だ I'm familiar with Vのは → Vのも for multiple nominalized items, but this use of it has me stumped. "Because of the transportation issues after the snow piles ...
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私と同じ or 私のと同じ when comparing possession

This question made me think. 彼の車は私と同じです。 His car is the same as mine. Except that isn't a literal translation. A literal translation would be "His car is the same as me". But I am not a car. ...
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Why is 英語教師 possible but 英語先生 not possible?

Why is it ok to say both 英語教師 and 英語の教師 but not 英語先生, just 英語の先生?
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Confusing use of possessive の

This is embarrassingly basic. I've been using の happily for the last year and then I read this sentence and made the mistake of stopping to think about it: ポケットからきれいな包みのアメ玉を取り出した。 He took a ...
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Grammatical Correctness of 最終+noun

I lived in Japan for some time and can communicate quite well. However, sometimes there are some constructs in Japanese which I know but can't explain with grammatical rules. 最終 + noun is one of them....
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This instance of のに is opposite from my expectations

I have this sentence in one of my JLPT practise books: 電子{でんし}レンジは冷{さ}めた料理{りょうり}を温{あたた}めるのに重宝{ちょうほう}だ。 I thought のに meant something like "in spite of". So, to me, this sentence seems to be saying ...
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Surprising noun order involving the の particle

I am puzzled by the word ordering in the following sentence: そのうちの一つの[箱]{はこ}は私のです。 This sounds unnatural to me, though I was told that this is correct by a native speaker (who was not able to ...
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オタクの僕の弟 - Does the “otaku” refer to me or my brother?

In the sentence オタクの俺の弟がこんなに友達が少ない訳が(ry (which is the name of the third episode of 旦那が何を言っているかわからない件), does the "otaku" refer to boku or otouto? In general is AのBのC、always interpretable as (AのB)のC as ...
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Question about 「の多く」

Here is the sentence relating to my question. 「あしたのジョー」以外の作品の多くは "梶原一騎" のペンネームで書かれました。 I have searched and found that 「多く」is adverb or adjective and it should be placed before the particle 「の」. Is ...
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Role of の in そんなの

Naruto found out that another character had been given a tempting offer and Naruto said: そんなの答えはNOだってばよ What is の doing here, grammatically? is it nominalization? I think I've heard stuff before ...
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Question with this sentence わたしはえをみるのがすきです

Just started learning Japanese and have question with the following sentence. わたしはえをみるのがすきです Do I have to use の in this situation? Can I just say わたしはえをみるがすきです without the の?
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what is the meaning of なの here

It seems I can remove it and keep the same meaning... 暗黒物質は自然界の新しい種類の力を介して相互作用する雑多な粒子の集まりからなり,それ自体が私たちの宇宙にひっそりと絡み合う1 つの宇宙 なのかもしれない。
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「〜に関するN」vs 「〜に関してのN」

In Japanese class, we just learned the grammatical form 「〜に関する」and its various usages. The conjugation 「〜に関しての」was also brought up, and our teacher said that there was virtually no difference between ...
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の+じゃなかった? Vs の+ じゃない? Tenses used

For example: 授業があるんじゃなかったの? 授業があったんじゃなかったの? 授業があるんじゃない? 授業があったんじゃない(の)? Are they the same? If yes, which are more common? Basically what are the differences?
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過去形+のだ versus 現在形+のだった

I'm puzzled by the bold part of the following paragraph which occurs in my Japanese learner's version of 雪女: 二人は毎日、川まで来ると、渡し守に船で川の向こう側へ運んでもらった。 山から帰るときは、また、渡し守に船で川のこちら側まで運んでもらうのだった。 My current ...
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Was the の particle sometimes written in katakana?

In "Maiko Haaaan!!!", a bridge going over Yumekawa (a fictional river in Kyoto) apparently has "夢ノ橋" written on it, rather than "夢の橋". I had two theories about why that may be the case. One was that ...
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の in Verb+のじゃない: Nominalizer or Explanatory?

A friend of mine jokingly came up with this sentence: 家を動かすんじゃなくて、引っ越すんだ As I see that (こうするのだ。ボールを投げるんだ。) pattern enough, I interpreted it as a light imperative, a person showing other person ...
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Explanatory particle「の」 comes from 「ので」?

I just saw on Imabi.net : http://www.imabi.net/karanodenoda.htm That 「ので」 is actually the て form of the explanatory particle の with だ... It actually makes a lot of sense if it is true. I`ve always ...
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Is there any difference between 大の好物 and 大好物?

This might seem like a ridiculous question, but I heard from a native that there is an emphasis when using 「大の好物」 instead of 「大好物」. Is this true? If this is so, why would 「大+の」 indicate more ...
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Shouldn't there be a のは in this sentence?

This is a an example sentence from a JLPT textbook to explain the use of たらしめる: 想像力{そうぞうりょく}こそ作品{さくひん}を芸術{げいじゅつ}たらしめる要素{ようそ}である。 I understand the meaning, which is something like, "The key element ...
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the omission of an implied “の” creates the appearance of a 四字熟語{よじじゅくご}?

I believe that www.yojijukugo.com has a pretty thorough list of 四字熟語? Is there a better site? However, I know that I've seen a lot of 4, or more, adjacent kanji that are not listed as 熟語。An example ...
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Use of consecutive particle の

I want to say: The rules on throwing away rubbish/garbage I thought of three possibilities: 1) ごみを捨てることの規則 2) ごみを捨てるのの規則 3) ごみを捨てるの規則 I'm favouring option 1. I think option 3 is just ...
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を after particle (であるかを)

This is probably an easy question, but I can't find a clear satisfying answer to it after looking it up so I figured I'd ask here. 自分がどんな人であるかを知ってもらいたい 1) Why can を act on a particle? I understand ...
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Is it a right interpretation of the line of this Japanese song?

First of all, sorry if something about my English grammar is wrong. English is not my native language and, even if I can understand it very well, writing and expressing myself is something I still ...
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Do genitive numerical phrases block the plural?

Context: [両]{りょう}の[貴様]{きさま}は[明日]{あした}の[末]{すえ}に[亡]{な}いです。 with the intended meaning Both of you will be dead by the end of tomorrow. This question is about the 「両の貴様は」. I understand that the "...
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「このXのY」– What does この refer to?

I was reading about the upcoming movie この[世界]{せかい}の[片隅]{かたすみ}に - and I thought about what the title might mean. I quickly arrived at "In a corner of this world" (which some sources also seem to list ...
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Explanatory 「の」 particle being used twice in the same phrase

I was reading Tae Kim's Guide to Learning Japanese on the explanatory 「の」 particle and was following it very well. I was able to understand the usage of the の particle in the end of sentences to add ...
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Are 世界の一番 and 世界で一番 both correct?

Are both phrases grammatically correct and how do you translate both? 世界の一番ゆうめいです 世界で一番ゆうめいです

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