Questions tagged [particle-で]

助詞「で」. A sentential particle that can indicate the location of an event, or a means, material, cause or necessity.

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Particles: に vs. で

I have progressed pretty far in Japanese, but when I construct Japanese sentences, I still get these two particles mixed up. For example, when talking about being inside something, I don't know when ...
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What's the difference between に and で when speaking of time of an action?

What's the difference between に and で when speaking of the time of an action? I know に is very specific about time, but I'm not sure when, or how to use で. Can で only be used in certain instances? ...
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What's the difference between には and では

My book has these two sentences and I don't quite understand why they are using には in the first example and では on the second one. It seems to me that only では would be correct in this situation. 1)...
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に vs で again: 前に vs 後で

Following the current trend of pitting the particles に and で against each other, here is another question that does the same but from another type of usage and perspective. When we want to say "do X ...
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揺れる with に or で

I rarely have any problems with the に and で particles, but I have been a bit confused since seeing the word 揺れる in a few different sentences. As far as I know it is ok to say either: 旗が風に揺れている or ...
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Why is 一緒に correct and 一緒で incorrect?

This is a mistake I habitually make, even though I know what the right form is. Earlier tonight, I wanted to tell my friend "Let's go together!", so I sent a mail saying: 一緒{いっしょ}で行{い}こう! My ...
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Why is particle で used instead of particle と in 家族で出かける (Kazoku de dekakeru)?

I have found this sentence: 家族で出かける。(Kazoku de dekakeru.) Why is the particle で used instead of と?
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Using で instead of に with いる

The example sentence in Why is も used instead of が in the sentence 「日本ではクモを見ると良いことがあると言う人もいますよ」, 日本ではクモを見ると良いことがあると言う人もいますよ got me thinking "Why is it using で, not に?". I.e., why not 日本には、...
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に and で revisited

Consider the statement A: ホテル(に/で)泊まる. For both cases would translate to "I stay at a hotel" in English. However they are answers to different questions. Consider the questions 1.どこに泊まる and 2.(ホテルで)...
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Difference between ままに and ままで?

What would be the difference between 扉はやはり音もなく、押されるままに動いた。 and 扉はやはり音もなく、押されるままで動いた。 When do you use ままで instead of ままに?
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に vs で: 映画に見る vs 映画で見る

Branching off from the comments to this question: Do I say えいがにみました or えいがをみました ?: Preamble: The comment says 映画に見た is valid for "I saw it in a movie". I went to search for example sentences and ...
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Combining に/で particles with 等【など】(or other “etc.” stand-ins)

I was recently trying to make an open-ended enumeration of places in a construction that would require the use of a に particle. E.g.: AやBに行こう or even: A[and the like]に行こう Preferably using a ...
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“外で遊びに行く” vs “外へ遊びに行く”

I saw the following 2 options in an exam question: 私は__に行く a. 外で遊び b. 外へ遊び The answer is '外へ遊びに行く' Does 'で' also work here? What's the difference here?
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What is じゃ in じゃない?

Since there is possibility of "じゃありません" instead of "じゃないです" (which is logical, given "ありません" is polite "ない"), and it also seemed that I have seen "じゃ" used without "ない", I'd like to ask, what "じゃ" ...
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When is it natural to use で and に and when not to use them

In my previous question I wanted to know how to say If we continue at this rate I will be fluent by Christmas. Both answers were really helpful and I now know how to say it but there is still ...
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How should I view でより and でのより?

My basic understanding of より to compare things or ending letters, is failing me when there's a で or での in front of it. As I write this, I'm wondering, can read でより as "with, more", "in, more"? ...
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その中( に / で / から ) What is the correct choice of particles?

Excerpt from a JLPT practice question: Background information: the writer was looking for rental apartments. 次に行ったところは小さい会社ですが、そこの人は大変優しい人でした。 それにいいアパートもたくさんありました。 私はその中[Blank]好きな家を借りました。 今、...
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using の with と,で, から, まで

http://www.shiro.jp.net/2013/10/tono-deno-kakrano-madenoeno-learning.html This page explains that a noun with と, で, から, まで that modifies another noun must have の attached to them as in: ...
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Use of かける (N5 question)

An N5 vocabulary question I'm having trouble understanding: わたしの となりの (   ) を かけた ひとは すずきさんです。 1 くつ   2 かぎ   3 めがね   4 でんわ The answer is 3: わたしの となりの ( めがね ) を かけた ひとは すずきさんです。 Which I ...
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What is the difference between それでいい and それがいい here?

As I understand it, それでいい means 'it is fine like this' and それがいい means 'this is fine', but what is the protagonist trying to convey here by first using それでいい and then correcting himself to それがいい? ...
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Placement of adverbs

I was working through my N5 sentential grammar (sentence composition) practice book, and there was a question with an adverb, おおごえで (大声で): 山を のぼりながら おおごえ ___ ___ ___ ___ 人も いました。 1 うた   2 うたう  ...
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The uses & etymology of で

In Japanese, the particle で seems to have multiple uses: Instrumental: 車{くるま}で大阪{おおさか}に行{い}った。 "I went to Osaka by car." Locative: 図書館{としょかん}で数学{すうがく}を勉強{べんきょう}している。 "I'm studying math in the library....
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How to express “with (x) as well” and “even with (x)”

I am trying to express something akin to these sentences: Even with a spoon, he digs well (でも?) Even without a shovel, he digs well I would also like to express this: With a shovel as ...
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Difference between では and には when the final verb is still ある?

So I was under the impression that で/に mostly depends on the final verb of the phrase, and that いる/ある requires に because it doesn't signify an action happening at a location. Tobira's 10th chapter ...
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This instance of のに is opposite from my expectations

I have this sentence in one of my JLPT practise books: 電子{でんし}レンジは冷{さ}めた料理{りょうり}を温{あたた}めるのに重宝{ちょうほう}だ。 I thought のに meant something like "in spite of". So, to me, this sentence seems to be saying ...
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に vs で with state of being (but no verb)

All the に vs で comparisons I can find discuss using them with verbs. However I recently wanted to say something like "I am alone at home", and phrased it without a verb: 家で一人です But that got me ...
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What is the function of particle に in this sentence? みんなお寺に名前を登録しなければなりませんでした。

What is the function of the particle に in this sentence? みんなお寺に名前を登録しなければなりませんでした。 That means that everyone had to register their names in temples? But why isn't there で particle then (place of ...
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The use of でも and ででも in this sentence

A: あ……えっと……何か手伝うことは、ありますか? B: ん? あぁ、この辺はドシロウトにできるこっちゃないからな。 邪魔にならねぇように先にメシでも食って、後は舞台袖ででも大人しくしてな Pretty much in general でも and ても don't sit well in my mind. There have been a lot of times I see ...
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Particle で before もちきり

I recently learnt the word もちきり. It always seems to preceeded by a word with particle で e.g. 最近、あなたの噂でもちきりよ Rumours about you are a hot topic at the moment. I can't understand why で is used. ...
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What does で mean when ordering food/drinks?

In a TV show, I heard the following exchange: Man: 生ビール Izakaya owner: 大?中? Man: 大で I thought で was used to talk about location, so I'm a bit confused. What does で mean in this case?
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Explanatory particle「の」 comes from 「ので」?

I just saw on Imabi.net : http://www.imabi.net/karanodenoda.htm That 「ので」 is actually the て form of the explanatory particle の with だ... It actually makes a lot of sense if it is true. I`ve always ...
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Grammatical justification for でしかない

The song eX Dream by Myuji (which appears in an anime OP) contains the sentence: [夢]{ゆめ}は夢でしかない The general point of the sentence is fairly clear, meaning "a dream is just a dream". But what is ...
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Why does 冬休みは家族でイタリアやイギリスへ行きました。 have で instead of と? [duplicate]

Why does this sentence: 冬休みは家族でイタリアやイギリスへ行きました。 have で there instead of と? Wouldn't "with family" be 家族と?
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Correct usage of [verb stem] + に + [another verb]

I'm a little unclear on the use a verb stem, followed by に and another verb. Take these two examples: 特別なビザをもらって行った 特別なビザをもらいに行った I think the first means "I went with a special visa", but it ...
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Difference between だけで and でだけ?

The だけ meaning "only", and で being the "at/in" particle. When saying "only in/at", does the で come before, or after the だけ? What does it mean, if anything, when it's reversed? Example: "You can only ...
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ここに書いた or ここで書いた?

Which particle do I use to say that something is written somewhere? I googled both versions and they have a similar number of hits. Can I use both? Is there a difference between the two?
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で or に: how does the meaning of a sentence change?

Supposing I wanted to say "I see the fireworks at the summer festival". Would this be: 夏{なつ}祭{まつ}りで花{はな}火{び}を見{み}ます。 or 夏祭りに花火を見ます。 If both are correct, how does the meaning differ between ...
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Would you consider the で in 日本食で一番好きなのは・・・ to be the particle で or the -te form of だ?

I've always taken this to be the -te form of だ. My reasoning is similar to the discussion given here: What's the use of で in 「日本の食べ物で大好きなものは何?」 However, I ran this by a native speaker, and she ...
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Sentence ending で

I've got a question regarding the sentence ending で in the second sentence. はじめ:まずは腹ごしらえしておこうよ。 たもつ:じゃあ、僕はチーズバーガーで。 Here is で part of a contraction Japanese use in their daily speech? If so what ...
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で終わります: trying to close by? で帰ります, trying to leave by? It depends on the sentence?

I can say 売り場は九時で終わります、 and 三時で帰ります、 which I've learned mean something like, "They'll be trying to close from," and, "I'll be trying to leave from." I've also learned that 2月25日で帰ります is not correct. ...
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Differences in meaning of using へ, に, or で in marking locations.

in "明日、姉とデパート_買い物に行きます。" why is へ favoured over で in my workbook? If i ask myself the question "明日は、何をする" Can i answer it with "買い物に行く" and make ”デパート” an incidental location? That was how i justified ...
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で in the copula である

I have always wondered where the で in ~である (and ~でございます) comes from. In the answer to the question 「です」, what is it really? Is my analysis correct?, Eiríkr Útlendi states that the で in ~である is the ...
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In this location context how are に, で and にて different?

I still have trouble with how に and で differ when dealing with locations, and I just stumbled across にて. Are these all interchangeable? How are they different? オンラインマーケットにて販売開始しました。 ...
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で vs が in 上手に話せます?

日本語で上手に話せます。 日本語が上手にはなせます。 Hello, I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but is it で or が? I know you're supposed to use で for languages, but this sentence I got from class is using が。 I'm ...
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Particles で and も and でも

In both these sentences, what does でも mean? (I think I know the meaning of the sentences, just not the particles) カードでもいいですか。 なごやでもうっていますか。 I know that で is a particle that can denote location or ...
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Difference between 以外で and 以外に

文部科学省は、病気などの理由以外で、1年に30日以上学校を休んだ子どもが、2016年度に13万4398人いたと発表しました。 The Ministry of Education announced that there were 134398 children in the 2016 school year who had more than 30 days of absence for ...
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Why is で used instead of に alongside ある?

I am wondering as to why で was used after 間 instead of に as I would expect because it is talking about popularity being present. What is the general definition for this usage of で? そのホテルは安くて清潔なので、...
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Why is で used in 「大英雄が無職で何が悪い」

大英雄が無職で何が悪い (What's wrong with a great hero being unemployed) (?) I think understand the meaning of the sentence but I equate the "で" with the English "with", rather than think about why で is ...
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Meaning of で in 敦賀から新大阪まで〈で〉2兆1000億円かかる予定です

Regarding the construction of a new bullet train line: 工事のお金は、[敦賀]{つるが}から新大阪までで2兆1000億円かかる予定です。 The construction cost from 敦賀 to 新大阪 is expected to be (some eye watering amount of money). I can'...
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Listing places in Japanese and using particles afterwards

If I want to say John studies at home and the library do I say ジョンさんはうちととしょかんでべんきょうします。 I feel like I'm getting the particles wrong or that I'm actually supposed to use double particles.