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関西弁. A group of dialects in the Kansai region.

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What are the main differences between 京都弁(Kyoto-ben) and 大阪弁(Osaka-ben)

These two dialects will sound very similar to an untrained ear. Can anyone highlight the main differences between these two dialects?
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Except for pitch, what are the differences in pronunciation between Kansaiben and Tokyoben?

I have tried to ask people this type of question on many occasions and the answer is always the same, but people are notoriously bad at evaluating their own language, so I ask here: Apart for pitch, ...
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や in Kansai-ben when it is not だ

The following sentence occurs in The Legend of Zelda: ナンカ コウテ クレヤ (This would be なんか買うてくれや! and was famously translated as "Buy somethin', will ya!".) From the 買うて, it's obvious he's speaking Kansai-...
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わ usage at the end of sentences

What is the difference between the "わ" sentence ender used by women in general and the one that is used by both Males and females in the Kansai area? I've asked my Japanese co-workers about it ...
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What is the implication when a gruff old man ends a sentence with わ?

In this question, it seems to me it was clearly established that わ, at the end of a sentence, is decidedly feminine. There was talk of a Kansai-ben わ with slightly different implications, but still ...
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Existence verbs in the Kansai Dialect

In this part of this Wikipedia article, it states In other areas such as Hyogo and Mie, いる /iru/ is hardly used and おる /oru/ does not have the negative usage. What I want to know is, does this ...
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Is accent position predictable for -i verbs in Osaka/Kansai?

Background While I'm not especially confident about the reliability of my sources (Wikipedia (0) (1) (2) and some guys' personal websites), and it's possible that I transcribed some of these wrong, ...
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Is the Kansai あかん a negated verb?

It seems to behave like a verb, and would be the negated form of a verb あく if it were.
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Is 「やってもた」 the same as 「やってしまった」? What is the grammatical rule behind this?

I have recently seen 「やってもた」 used in a Japanese conversation, I don't remember the context exactly, but it was something like: 久々にやってもた。 After asking my Japanese friend, it turns out to be some ...
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Is it true that only girls use うち to refer to themselves?

Is it true that only girls will use うち to refer to themselves? So when a guy say うち he is referring to his in-group / company / family, and not referring to himself, right?
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How and when to use せや and its variants in Kansai-ben?

Here in Kansai I hear せや, せやねん, and せやな everywhere. I was wondering if anyone could clarify the meaning and usage of these, as well as their equivalent in more standard Japanese? Additionally, are ...
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ねん in the Kansai dialect

I've heard the ねん ending a lot in 関西弁{かんさいべん} but I'm still struggling to find when it's used. Can you use it with all kinds and conjugations of verbs? I've heard ちゃうねん over and over, but if I try to ...
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Help understanding せんで?

From this manga panel: I am trying to understand「せんで」. My guess is it's negated する. In Kansai-ben, I've read that しない=せん, but why is で added (instead of て like しなくて)? Is this how to て-form other ...
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The meaning of 来なんだ (a seemingly archaic form)

Situation from a story: 侍A is pursuing 侍B. 侍A meets 町人C and interrogates him: 侍B (some description)、逃げては来なんだかな。 I guess it must mean something like "didn't he come here while running away?" I ...
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What does the word 「やめにしい」 mean?

Here is the dialogue containing the word. A: かってな推測はやめろう おれは青山なんざ... B: 自分をごまかすのはいいかげんでやめにしいな なんでもっときびしく現実をみつめようとはせんのや
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Is modern day keigo borrowed from kansai-ben? Sources?

I have heard on various occasions that modern day keigo was borrowed from Kansai-ben. It states this on Wikipedia: Historically, extensive use of keigo (honorific speech) was a feature of Kansai-...
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Meaning of 閉店ガラガラガラ in the following sentence

An American boxer has been living in Japan for 3 years. He lives in the Kansai area, so he speaks Kansai dialect. He complains that after 3 years in Japan he still hasn't fought against a really ...
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What does it mean when someone says -han after a person's name?

I was watching a video of a Japanese comedy show and at one point one of the comedians accidentally spilled a hot food on his superior. After that, his peers referred to him as "Tanaka-han" a couple ...
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What is the etymology of the word しょーむない?

しょーむない更新失礼しました(T^T) Sorry for the boring update From my understanding, しょーむない means something along the lines of くだらない and つまらない. Where does it originate from and is it specific to a certain ...
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Function of 「masu-stem」+よる in Kansai-ben

Several years ago an acquaintance introduced me to the Hiroshima dialect and mentioned clear distinction between perfect and continuous aspects: Example 1: The bus is coming. Standard: バスが来ている。 ...
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to say + tara form

I am a beginner of Japanese. Currently I've been studying for 1 month already and I am still n5. I try to watch Japanese TV as much as possible even though I don't understand what most of them say ...
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What does ...のなんでやろ。 mean? Is that a やる verb? is の a normalization particle? If so, what is なんで?

Some Youtube comments: 1) 日本人にとっても日本語ってクソムズイのに、外国人に簡単だとか言われると腹立つのなんでやろ。しかもカタコトでwww 誰もこのコメの意味分からんだろうけどさwww 2) 文化を知らずして日本語を喋る人は大体ただの糞外人 What does ...のなんでやろ。 mean? Is that a やる verb? is の a ...
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What does いきなりはじめんといてよ mean

from what I know, does it mean "starts from all of a sudden"? I thought the sentence could be separated as いきなり+ はじめん+といてよ?
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What does the 「な」 do in this sentence?

Here is the sentence said by Kansai speaker. He said this because his companion has annoyed other persons in the same room until they woke up. そら見い いよいよおきなはったあ。 I think it would work as a filler. ...
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感じなんです, 感じでして meaning and translation issues

I have a sentence like this: 今はその解決に色々とアプローチをかけとる感じでして 試作機のテストをCら共々 手伝わせてもろてる感じなんです It's a part of dialogue where A is giving a report to person B about progress on her project. Although this is a ...
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What does the word 「気がせんのや」mean?

Here is the sentence including the word. わしはあの東光少年院にはいったが さいご とうてい 生きて 出られるような気がせんのや。 It is said by Kansai spoken guy. I have tried to look on some Japanese dictionary web sites and found that the ...
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What is なっとらんかった?

拍子抜けって言えば拍子抜けやなぁ。どこも大事にはなっとらんかったみたいやし....なんか踊らせてた感があるわ I don't understand what this part means. I tried looking it up but I can't find anything. Is it a single word? Thanks!
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What is the meaning of やるやない?

あなたも なかなか やるやないの〜 Um... is this supposed to be a form of [positive verb] [negative verb] chaining together? What does it mean?
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What do the 「ああなる」and「気いします」mean?

The sentence below is said by a Kansai-spoken character but I'm not sure if thetwo phrases are related to the dialect. みんながああなる気{き}持{も}ち ようわかるような気{き}いします感{かん}動{どう}してまんね あいつら....
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What is the meaning of ハードルガンガン?

I can't figure out the meaning of the following sentence found in a manga これアカンやつやぞ何か言わんとハードルガンガン上がってくやつやぞー! I'm having not only one, but several doubts in this sentence. Starting by ハードルガンガン, ...
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どこかでなろうたんですか。meaning?

someone is amazed by his friend's ability of dancing well so he asked him どこかでなろうたんですか and his friend replied ええ、坂本さんに教えてもらいました。彼、ダンスがとくいなんです。 I don't get the meaning "なろうたんですか” here ?
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Do even Kansai women use the ~ん negative?

As in 分からん and ならん. In Standard (?) speech, I'm fairly certain it's masculine.
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ですよ in Kansai-ben

What does the sentencing ending particle ですよ become in Kansai-ben?
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Do humble forms exist in Kansai-ben?

I know that Kansai-ben has a variety of strategies to express honorification. For instance, the honorific form of `use' in Kyōto-ben is 使いはる. My question is about whether 謙譲語 forms exist in Kansai ...
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What's the meaning of よーちぇん時 and おらん?

I am reading something but I can't decipher the meaning of this: よーちぇん時から忘れた事ないぞ、みーくん and おらん The first one I can grasp the sense since it tells Mi-kun not to forget the time but よーちぇん is affixed ...
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Usage of ~まんねん (関西弁)

Steven Seagal stars in two TV advertisements for the energy drink アリナミン, as seen here and here. In the first commercial he is shown using martial arts two dispatch his opponents, while in the second ...
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Is あたんなはれ in Kansai-ben "get yourself warm"? What verb does it come from?

Someone lights up a fire and tells the other person (reading from the situation) to get warm by the fire: あたんなはれ んなはれ is Kansai-ben for imperative なりなさい, but where does the first part come from? ...
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Kansai variant(s) of ~しちゃ危ない/だめ

What would be some Kansai-ben equivalents to the following two sentences? (a) 火遊びしちゃ危ないよ! (b) 火遊びしちゃだめだよ!
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What does 『なのよさ』 at the end of a sentence mean?

I am currently playing a Visual Novel, and there's a character who ends all of her sentences with that 『なのよさ』(This is 蒔菜{まきな} from the Grisaia VN series). From what I understood that has to do with ...
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What does the phrase 「やのう」 mean?

I came across the phrase in the following sentence. ええ度{ど}胸{きょう}やのうこまいの...けなげやで The guy who said it is a Kansai speaker. I'm not sure if the phrase is related to the dialect.
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How was 手伝わなあかん conjugated?

I was wondering how 手伝わなあかん was conjugated. I know that it consists of the words 手伝う and あかん but I don't know why the い was dropped. Is it slang?
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What does 「例によって例のごとくや」 mean?

I have noticed that there is a definition for 「例によって例のごとし」 in a dictionary online but there is slightly difference in the sentence ending, 「くや」 and 「し」. I am not sure if they have the same meaning. ...
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関西弁 「~せんと」- More than just「~しないと」?

Following scene: Evil henchman grabs girl threatening her and asks her if she won't become his woman to which the girl reluctantly declines and says that she already has somebody in her life. The bad ...
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What is the non-slurred version for 叫んどんねん? 叫んでおらない?

I have trouble understanding 叫んどんねん in this panel. I thought it must be 叫んでおらない but I don't think it makes sense in this context.
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How to speak in Kansai dialect

For someone who has studied standard Japanese, how hard is it to learn Kansai dialect? Is there a lot to learn, or not much? What are the basic things to learn in order to speak in this dialect? All I ...
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Meaning of よりまし in バンパー外すよりまし

A friend posted on a social network a picture of his Subaru car's bumper after an minor accident, and got this comment: 大丈夫!バンパー外すよりまし!笑 I guess it means No problem! Removing the bumper will make ...
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Meaning of 行かしてもらうから

In 火垂るの墓 there is a scene where the mother says: ほな、ひと足先に壕に行かしてもらうからね。 What does 行かしてもらうから mean? I know usually もらう means to receive / get someone to do something. I’ve never seen this ...
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The meaning of んや

Here are two examples that I have encountered ん+や  ずっと変{へん}な夢{ゆめ}を見{み}とったような気{き}がするんやけど・・・ another example: なんか、体調{たいちょう}悪{わる}いんやない? I am still trying to have a better sense of the letters ...
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Preparing for a fight in Osaka (dialectal んやったなぁ)

Subject: ironic story; place: Osaka; time: pre-mordern; situation: a boy is threatened with a sword-fight. More threatened than really called for a duel, so he has time. The hero of the story says to ...
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Casual speech - できんでえ / てやんでえ

I've come across both できんでえ and ~てやんでえ today but I'm not sure what they mean or what their origin is. There's some information relating to ~てやんでえ online which seems to point to it being a question (&...