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So I never though about it, but ですね and ですよ don't follow the silent vowel rules, but I don't think I've ever heard (desu ne) or (desu yo). It's always (des ne) and (des yo). Unless I'm imagining things, is this right? Is this some special case? Or is the u actually said with ね and よ?

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  • The u in です is typically devoiced and pronounced as "des" and the same goes for ですね/ですよ. Of course, there are exceptions such dialects, emphasis, and feminine speech.
    – Kimbi
    Apr 26, 2023 at 8:47
  • @Infenoboy please link to or describe the rules you're referring to, or it will be difficult for answerers to know what you're thinking of.
    – Leebo
    Apr 26, 2023 at 11:28
  • Does this answer your question? Actual phonetic realization of "devoiced" vowels Apr 27, 2023 at 19:04

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