I recently came accross this sentence:


Which I understand roughly translates to "According to the travellers, some hungry animals came down from the mountain. What I do not understand is how 言うには works here. I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem to fit に + contrastive は.

I would like to know how には plays a part in the meaning "according to". Or maybe if 言うには is just a set phrase, I would be satisfied with that explanation as well.


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This に is a particle explained here: What does the に do in 表情から察するに? This は is a topic marker and is optional here.

This type of に is literary and used mainly in written Japanese. It attaches to only a small group of verbs (言う, 見る, 聞く, 思う, 考える, 察する, etc.) in modern Japanese, so I think it's okay to think of them as just a group of similar set phrases. (In classical Japanese, it was a simple conjunctive particle similar to と.)

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