I just got a hang of Vteいる form, and was studying Vteみる and I wanted to ask whether, the Vteみる form causes the imperfect verb to become perfect (for that purposes).
Background of the concept ている:
Before going into the details let me clear that I am saying those verbs to be imperfect which can have a continuous state with Vteいる form, e.g. 食べている 、見ている、歩いている etc. These verbs take the continuous form after the Vteいる because they are imperfect in a sense, and can be continued.
Further, I am classifying those verbs (both transitive and intransitive) to be perfect, which take perfect tense, when Vteいる is used example 行っている (he has gone.. somewhere and is still there)、死んでいる （has died) 、送っている (have send) etc. These verbs take the the perfect tense form.
As per my inference (please correct me if I am wrong or lagging), the reasoning is that, once these verbs are performed (once) or partly are performed, they are complete and cannot be further performed (in continuation of that action, as they are complete in one moment i.e. instantly, e.g. once the person is dead, he achieves the stage of death and cannot further, perform the action of death in continuation, as the moment that thing acted he died or achieved the goal of the verb (instantly)). In other words, they are punctual verbs (for those who already have studied this topic).
てみる and imperfect verb:
While I was studying てみる, I inferred that (not sure if I am correct, please correct me if I am wrong), this form is was showing more or less the punctual characteristic i.e. the moment the person has (even partly completed) done that action for the first time then the action is complete. Now if we apply it to the the stage of "trying". This stage occurs only when the person has actually performs the main action. Further, the person can do the action (of trying) only at the time the main action is performed. That is to say, that once the main action is performed then only the stage of "try" will exist and end as well i.e. it will be instantaneously be completed. (like the punctual verb 試す). In other words, the stage of "trying" will never exist as the action will be instantaneously be performed once it is tried.
For explaining it further, I will use an example;
So, if I use this auxiliary (i.e. てみる) with 食べて and if we look at the action closely, the stage of try will only exist when the person has, put the food in his mouth (not before that). Now, once he has put the food in the mouth in that moment itself the action of trying will be complete (as he has tried it) i.e. it will be punctual because he cannot perform "to try eat(to see how it is like) " again in a series i.e. continuation, as he has already achieved the state of trying and he knows how it is (though the action eat can still continue). (like the verb 試す (to try) has perfect form with ている)
Following are my question, after considering the above-mentioned reasoning:
- Can てみる take ている and form Vてみてみる e.g. 食べてみている and in other verbs as well.
- Can てみる make the imperfect verb like other punctual verbs?
- If question number 2 is affirmative, whether, the form 食べてみている will be present perfect i.e. I have eaten it (and have seen what it is like)?
- If question 2 is in negative, will てみている for a verb meaning trying to see what it is like e.g. 食べてみている i will eat or I eat (for trying to see what is like)?
Following are the resources that, I referred to get that understanding of ている:
https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/3122/when-is-v%E3%81%A6%E3%81%84%E3%82%8B-the-continuation-of-action-and-when-is-it-the-continuation-of-state https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-distinguish-the-different-meanings-of-the-teiru-%E3%81%A6%E3%81%84%E3%82%8B-form-in-Japanese-e-g-%E4%BB%8A%E5%AF%9D%E3%81%A6%E3%81%84%E3%82%8B-%E4%BB%8A%E9%96%8B%E3%81%84%E3%81%A6%E3%81%84%E3%82%8B https://www.mamori.com/Sugita2009.pdf https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Yasuhiro_Shirai2/publication/227647906_The_Acquisition_of_Tense-Aspect_Marking_in_Japanese_as_a_Second_Language/links/5a750d1b45851541ce56673b/The-Acquisition-of-Tense-Aspect-Marking-in-Japanese-as-a-Second-Language.pdf?origin=publication_detail