How would you translate the following sentence:


Is it either:

According to tomorrow's schedule only/merely/at most Tanaka, Hayashi, Kawada and Hara will participate.


According to tomorrow's schedule in all likelihood Tanaka, Hayashi, Kawada and Hara will participate (but more participants are also possible).

Generally, would this also work with というたところ instead of といったところ?


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From 新完全マスター N1 文法:

〜といったところだ is a grammar point that has a meaning of 程度は最高でも〜で、あまり高くない. It's used to show that the quantity of something isn't very much.



From a dictionary of advanced Japanese grammar, p633:

といったところだ is a phrase that the speaker uses to explain something in a brief/rough/approximate manner. (Not necessarily any nuance about being not very much... Just estimated. "I'd say that it's about....")


Yankeesとred soxはほぼ互角といったところだ

(From a Mandarin textbook) 〜といったところだ can also be used to rephrase something using different/easier words to make it easier for someone to follow what you're talking about. Often used together with the ば form of verbs.



You can see that in both cases, the speaker is taking something that they think the listener might not know about/be able to grasp (woodblock prints of stars from the 17th-19th centuries, children's tastes) and then gives a more accessible example to draw a connection (photos of idols, curry and hamburgers).

That in mind, whether or not there is a meaning of "merely" or not depends a lot on context.

He could be saying "four or five of us will participate tomorrow, according to the schedule" without any nuance of a judgement about how many or few people that is.

If this is a monthly/weekly whatever meeting and there are normally ten people, then you can infer that there's more of a "merely" feeling involved.

So your first translation is the more accurate one - just know that, depending on the context, you might not necessarily have a "merely" nuance involved.

I'm not sure if they're interchangeable or not - ーといったところだvというところだ says they are, though.

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