The MC/魔術者 found out that their army was headed towards a trap/ambush and informed in commander about it. The MC proposed that the solution was to turn backwards/retreat and take out all the enemies that were setting up behind the the army by surprise.

The MC is asking the commander if he can part with the main army, to escort an injured party (that got injured discovering the trap with the MC) back to safety. Is it true that MC is very motivated to get recognized for 手柄. The Commander is very arrogant and self centered. The Commander probably wants 手柄 but that isn't clear.











(this might make no sense depending on how off i am)

Did the commander determine his is troubled even though he can leave me in a inferior position by taking the credit (for this victory), or is it that he wants to act like he's the commander that the underlying think is the one who turned around an army that was heading into a trap?


  1. Assuming this is done by the commander, should 手柄を奪われて be interpreted as the general honorific passive and not the passive voice?

  2. If 手柄を奪われて is the general honorific passive and not the passive voice is 俺を残して also done by the commander? If so why was 俺を残して not passive?

  3. Why was 困ると判断したか used over 困るか? It definitely feels less natural, especially when ...と判断したか isn't really "parallel" with ...を演出したいのか in terms of tense and type of action.

  4. The doer of ...指揮官を演出したい has to be the commander as well right? Or is it somehow the MC?

  5. On basis did the MC make all of these 。。。か assumptions from? It seems completely out of the blue.


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I am afraid you are misinterpreting some things that you did not ask about in your questions, so I will give you my translation first:

Did he (=the commander) figure that it would be annoying if he carelessly left me (in the main army) and got his credit stolen (by me)?

Or is it that he wants to act like he is a commander who thinks dearly of his underlings by ordering all the soldiers who went to deal with the troops in ambush to retire?

  • 下手に{へたに} means "carelessly", "thoughtlessly", or "ineptly".
  • (指揮官が俺に)手柄を奪われる is an example of what is called the possessor passive. The active counterpart would be 俺が指揮官の手柄を奪う. See:
  • ても does not mean "even though" here. You should translate it simply as "if".
  • From your description, it seems 伏兵処理に赴いた人間 is referring to the soldiers that discovered the ambush and got injured.
  • The は in 人間は全員退却させる is masking a を. That is, 人間 is the direct object of 退却させる. The は is implying that the commander will not make some other soldiers retreat.
  • 部下思い is a no-adjective that describes a person who thinks dearly of his underlings and shows a lot of concern for them. Similar phrases include 親思い, 子供思い, 家族思い, etc.

Regarding your third question,


does not seem natural to me in this context. It would mean "Would he find it annoying if he carelessly left me (in the main army) and got his credit stolen?" It would be a question about the future, so it is hard to interpret it as a guess for the reason he did not make him go with the main army. However, it would be a little better if it were 困るか, which would mean "Is it that he would find it annoying..." Similarly, I think the の in 演出したいのか is necessary.

Also, I do not think the questions need to be parallel in tense or type of action, either in Japanese or in English. The narrator is just asking himself why the commander did not make him go with the main army. He is just guessing, "Is it because A, or is it because B?"

  • hm, all the variables of the various 下手, 残して meaning being left with the army or left with the scouting group, ても being if or even though, and 伏兵処理 not being the enemy's plan but the actions of the scouting group, made all sorts of interpretations seemingly plausible at first. Thanks
    – charu
    Sep 24, 2019 at 18:30
  1. No. 奪われて in 手柄を奪われても困る is the passive voice, not the honorific passive: The Commander does not want the MC to be credited with the victory. In other words, the Commander will feel uncomfortable (困る) if the credit for the victory is stolen by the MC (手柄を奪われても).

  2. Yes. The Commander let the MC stay (俺を残して).

  3. Hope someone has the answer.

  4. Yes. The Commander himself/herself wants to act as if he/she is (演出したい) a commanding officer who pays attention to his subordinates (部下思いの指揮官).

  5. No idea. I believe that the question is: On what basis does the MC think that the Commander's motivation to let him/her stay is 下手に俺を...演出したいのか? The answer depends on how the writer built the story: Readers may or may not get the answer.

  • based on your answers is "下手に俺を残して手柄を奪われても困ると判断したか" a complete phrase? or is it: 下手に俺を残して, <-- he did this because ....判断したか ...を演出したいのか?
    – charu
    Sep 22, 2019 at 18:43
  • @charu: Yes. Both「下手に...判断したか (1)」 and 「伏兵処理に...演出したいのか (2)」form a complete phrase, and they are connected by 「あるいは or」. The MC is wondering why the Commander let him/her stay: Is it (1) or (2)? いずれにせよ (whichever is the case), the MC thinks that, since the tactics of the enemy (タネ) have been already leaked out (割れた), the victory is assured (揺らぐまい) without himself/herself (俺がいなくとも). Last but not least, recall that the MC was one of 伏兵処理に赴いた人間: (1) is more focused on the MC himself/herself (俺), while (2) is more focused on the group of soldiers (伏兵処理に赴いた人間).
    – user
    Sep 23, 2019 at 12:34
  • when you say "The MC is wondering why the Commander let him/her stay", is "the Commander let him/her stay" what you read from 下手に俺を残して and not some more abstract concept? in that case, the two options you are describing are 「手柄を...判断したか (1)」 and 「伏兵処理に...演出したいのか (2)」instead right? In addition, why is ても used in 手柄を奪われても困ると判断したか when being troubled by 手柄を奪われて is a natural reaction? Is there any relation to the answers in here?
    – charu
    Sep 23, 2019 at 17:57
  • @charu: YES and NO for the 1st question. Why YES? In 「下手に...したか (1)」, 「俺を残して」 literally means 'the Commander let the MC stay.' Why NO? In 「伏兵処理に...したいのか (2)」, 「伏兵処理に赴いた人間は全員退却させる」 implies 'the Commander let the MC stay.' This is because the MC is a member of 伏兵処理に赴いた人間全員 who will be left out from the main army. Therefore, NO for the 2nd question. Two options are (1) and (2), not 「手柄を...したか <1>」and (2). Lastly, for the question regarding ても, I have no convincing answer.
    – user
    Sep 24, 2019 at 12:55

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