- 彼は私達に騒がないように頼んだ。
- 彼は私達に騒がないと頼んだ。
- 彼は私達に騒がない頼んだ。
Is there any difference between those?
asked Feb 21, 2018 at 21:35
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5Only the first one is correct. You may want to rephrase your question.– BJCUAIFeb 21, 2018 at 22:12
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@user27280 Even if it doesn't make sense, is the grammar okay in the second example? For example, would this be correct: 彼は私達に騒ぐなと頼んだ– user3856370Feb 22, 2018 at 15:06
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@user27280 yeah I'd like to know why it's incorrect because they all look correct to me– Omae wa mou shindeiruFeb 22, 2018 at 19:36
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@user3856370 「騒ぐな」would be more than a request, it would be a tongue-lashing (舌打ち）or an order (命令）, so 頼む wouldn't be an appropriate verb.– BJCUAIFeb 22, 2018 at 21:32
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彼は私たちに騒がないように頼んだ。◎ He told us not to be noisy.
No issues with this sentence.
彼は私たちに騒がないと頼んだ。✘
Without the ように, we would assume that the と is functioning as a quotative particle, which means that 「騒がない」would be what is being quoted. 「騒がないで」would be an appropriate fix.
彼は私たちに「騒がないで」と頼んだ。◎ He told us 'Don't be noisy'.
彼は私たちに騒がない頼んだ。✘
Using the simple negative form 「ない」 here would serve an adjectival function. Therefore, the verb should be changed to a noun (頼み）.
私たちは彼に騒がないという頼みを受けたんだ。【～微妙～】
'We received a request from him to not be noisy.
Probably best to avoid this last one as, despite being better grammatically, it is an unusual way to form the expression.
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「私たちは彼に騒がないという頼みを受けたんだ。」might be understandable but sounds unnatural. 「私たちは彼に騒がない頼みを受けたんだ。」 sounds unnatural and probably incorrect. We'd normally say 「私たちは彼に騒がないで｛くれと/ほしいと｝頼まれた」 (or maaybe 「私たちは彼｛に/から｝～～ないで｛くれと/ほしいと｝いう依頼を受けた」 as far as grammar goes)– chocolate ♦Feb 23, 2018 at 1:02
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