I'm reading a manga and have run into a tricky phrase, so I am asking for help and some explanations:


遊ばにゃ (or にや) - can't understand what the verb form is used here...

損なって - "failing", that seems clear

なもん - have no idea how to decipher this one...

だろうがおう!"can do it" or "let's do it" and exclamation おう, depends on the previous context, as I understand?

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    I feel like I'm missing something... the sentence doesn't really make sense if 損なって is そこなって. If 損 is そん, I would say 遊ばにゃ損ってなもんだろうが. Can you provide more context? – dainichi Mar 26 '12 at 5:07
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    @dainichi-san, Right, 遊ばにゃ損'な'ってなもんだろうが sounds so awkward. I'd say 遊ばにゃ損ってなもんだろうが too. – user1016 Mar 26 '12 at 18:06

I think the individual parts of it are:

  • 遊{あそ}ばにゃ → 遊{あそ}ばなきゃ → 遊{あそ}ばなければ (see also 遊ぶ)

    unless one plays/unless one has fun/unless one enjoys oneself

  • 損{そん}


  • ってなもん → というなもの

    (mainly for emphasis, I don't think it changes the meaning much here)

  • だろう (the plain form of the polite でしょう)

    I think

  • though

  • おう!

    (an exclamation, sometimes translated as "oh!" or "hey!" etc)

...It's a loss if you don't enjoy yourself I think though. Alright!

I think that translation loses a lot of the feel of the original colloquial text though.

EDIT: For the time being, I've assumed the "な" was a typo. Also hopefully fixed the exclamation part.

  • Well, that fits into the context nicely. Thank you very much! – user1259 Mar 25 '12 at 23:57
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    @Dono maybe, but "sokonau" didn't make a lot of sense to me here... – cypher Mar 26 '12 at 5:29
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    @Dono, if you're able to parse the sentence with 損なって as そこなって, please explain. I personally lean towards believing that 損って was corrected to 損なって because somebody thought it was an おくりがな error – dainichi Mar 26 '12 at 5:40
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    The おう is an exclamation. It's not がおう, but 「~~てなもんだろうが」+「おう」. – user1016 Mar 26 '12 at 18:08
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    @Chocolate Thanks for the correction! I was wondering if that was an exclamation last night, but I thought it would've had a comma or something between it, e.g. "が、おう!". I should read some more Manga ^^ – cypher Mar 26 '12 at 22:15

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