I told my friend 頑張って and they replied with:
こんなことでいわれても
Would the meaning of this be something like:
Even if this kind of thing is said (it doesn't help)
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2You already have the correct answer, so I will say it here. It is not "this kind of thing" that was said. It is 頑張って that was said. You said it in a situation where it did not sound "right".– user4032Apr 22, 2017 at 23:10
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で is the instrumental case and in this case it stands for reason, so the sentence can translate into "even if I'm told (of it) for such a (trivial) thing ...".
いわれる is the passive of ''to say'' and is often used to express ''being told'' something. The only weird thing about the sentence is the で. I would say こんなことを言われても to mean ''Even if you tell me such a thing...(it doesn't help)
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A native speaker told me this and I asked about the で and they said it is important but they don't know why. Thank you for letting me know about the passive form of 言う meaning being told. I didn't know that and I think I understand better now what the sentence means. Thank you– Tyler HApr 22, 2017 at 19:02
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Interesting. I tried to google the version with で but all the sentences that show up use を. You should probably ask your friend about the difference again. Anyways I'm pretty sure the meaning is about the same– YvesCBApr 22, 2017 at 19:08
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Could you link me to one of those sites? I asked the native speaker and they say it definitely is で。I gave them this translation: "Even by telling me this kind of thing (I wont be happy)" and they said it sounded correct– Tyler HApr 22, 2017 at 19:13
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Haha, no I literally just typed こんなことでいわれても into google to see what would come up. For example こんなことを言われても困るだけ！... comes up as the 9th result.– YvesCBApr 22, 2017 at 19:16
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1Nothing is weird about the use of 「で」. It is perfectly correct and natural.– user4032Apr 22, 2017 at 23:05