I told my friend 頑張って and they replied with:


Would the meaning of this be something like:

Even if this kind of thing is said (it doesn't help)

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    You already have the correct answer, so I will say it here. It is not "this kind of thing" that was said. It is 頑張って that was said. You said it in a situation where it did not sound "right".
    – user4032
    Commented Apr 22, 2017 at 23:10

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で is the instrumental case and in this case it stands for reason, so the sentence can translate into "even if I'm told (of it) for such a (trivial) thing ...".


いわれる is the passive of ''to say'' and is often used to express ''being told'' something. The only weird thing about the sentence is the で. I would say こんなことを言われても to mean ''Even if you tell me such a thing...(it doesn't help)

  • A native speaker told me this and I asked about the で and they said it is important but they don't know why. Thank you for letting me know about the passive form of 言う meaning being told. I didn't know that and I think I understand better now what the sentence means. Thank you
    – Tyler H
    Commented Apr 22, 2017 at 19:02
  • Interesting. I tried to google the version with で but all the sentences that show up use を. You should probably ask your friend about the difference again. Anyways I'm pretty sure the meaning is about the same
    – YvesCB
    Commented Apr 22, 2017 at 19:08
  • Could you link me to one of those sites? I asked the native speaker and they say it definitely is で。I gave them this translation: "Even by telling me this kind of thing (I wont be happy)" and they said it sounded correct
    – Tyler H
    Commented Apr 22, 2017 at 19:13
  • Haha, no I literally just typed こんなことでいわれても into google to see what would come up. For example こんなことを言われても困るだけ!... comes up as the 9th result.
    – YvesCB
    Commented Apr 22, 2017 at 19:16
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    Nothing is weird about the use of 「で」. It is perfectly correct and natural.
    – user4032
    Commented Apr 22, 2017 at 23:05

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