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Can we use 学生 to represent a person who learns martial arts such as 合気道?

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If you're thinking of relatively casual karate/aikido classes mainly for children and hobbyists, the most common word for their students is 生徒. 生徒 is the most natural choice for private classrooms for cooking, Yoga, abacus, piano, swimming, baseball, and almost everything.

  • 弟子 (="disciple") is a more serious and bigger word. Some schools may unconditionally call their students 弟子, but this word can often imply a strong relationship with their master, almost like that of a family member. One master can have one hundred 生徒, but typically takes on only a few true 弟子. Think of Goku and Master Roshi (Kame-sennin) in Dragon Ball.
  • 徒弟 is another uncommon synonym for 弟子.
  • 門下生 is another good word for those who belong to a certain faction and train martial arts or other skills seriously (professionally or semi-professionally). Here 門 means faction.
  • 門人 and 門弟 are synonym for 門下生, but are much rarer.
  • 学生 is, as others pointed out, an academic-sounding word. This usually refers to students who belong to universities, colleges and sometimes high schools.
  • 研修生 (lit. "trainee") doesn't have a strict definition, but it tends to mean someone who wants to be a professional but is still below professional level. Eight-year-old karate kids and hobbyists are usually not called 研修生.
  • Would 門下生 be appropriate for, say, marines-in-training learning combat techniques? Also, the “not yet professional” tier is often in English referred to as amateur, which may be worth mentioning in the point about 研修生. Unfortunately, this understanding of amateur is contextual—amateur athletes and similar are recognized as having well-above-average skills, but amateur can also be used pejoratively to state someone has no skills (and, often, no class or professional demeanor). – KRyan Feb 27 '17 at 19:11
  • "門人 [ ] are much rarer." I wouldn't say so, I have IDs of two dojos and both state 門人証. Students are also regularly called 門人さん by premises guards (not directly affiliated with dojo). – macraf Feb 28 '17 at 2:32
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Normally, I would say no, but there are always exceptions I suppose.
学 is mostly about learning and knowledge which is usually used in the context of school.

Martial arts is more about training than "school learning".

The term 弟子 is usually more adequate than 学生 when it comes to martial arts.

But I suppose if you go to that kind of place :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Budo_University

You might be considered a 学生.

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If one is learning about 合気道 (in the academic sense) I think 学生 is appropriate. However, if one is learning (i.e., training in) 合気道 it's better to use something like 研修生。

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I depends on a particular dojo, but other possible callings for member students (who are not designated as deshi) include:

  • 生徒{せいと} - the most casual, and probably most widely used

  • 門人{もんじん} - more traditional, especially if dojo is affiliated to a temple or shrine

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Trainees and apprentices of classic manners and techniques such as martial arts, flower arts, tea ceremony, calligraphy, and Japanese dancing are called 門人、門弟、門下生(of xx 師範)、弟子, or 練習生 with a modern tonality.

学生 refers to students of educational institutes such as universities, colleges, and vocational schools.

Students of high schools and Junior highs are called 生徒. Schoolchildren are called 生徒 or 学童.

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