So I came across this phrase:


So what does 友達と4人で mean? A friend plus 4 people? 4 people who happen to be friends? With the friend they are now 4 people?

I have never seen this construction, usually it´s either 友達が4人で or 4人の友達で that I encounter, hence my confusion. Any help would be appreciated.

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友達と4人で means "With the friends they are now 4 people", that is to say, they are I and three friends.

何人 in ~と何人で means the number of I and ~". For example, 彼女と二人で映画を見た is translated as I saw a movie with a girl friend.

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