20

Instead of using the proper counter for each thing, is it okay to just use the つ counter?

Like in:

彼女は子猫2匹を持っている。

Use つ instead of 匹:

彼女は子猫2つを持っている。

Are there situations when this is incorrect or not recommended?

  • 5
    Off topic: it's much more natural to use 2匹 adverbially, e.g. 子猫を2匹. – dainichi Sep 15 '15 at 23:30
  • 5
    And "to have (a pet)" is (ペットを)飼【か】っている. 持っている is wrong unless you mean holding two cats in one's arms. – naruto Sep 16 '15 at 1:59
23

つ is a generic inanimate counter. It might be confusing sometimes, but you can get away with using it for lots of inanimate objects if you don't know a more appropriate counter.

Don't use つ for animals or people.

You should use 匹 for kittens in your example, not つ. The basic counter for people is 人{にん}.

In general, animate objects (animals and people) have special counters. No matter how long and thin a snake may be, you can't use the inanimate counter for long and slender objects (本) to refer to it. And you should never refer to people like they're inanimate objects.

If you don't already know them, you should try to learn some basic counters at some point. Planning on using つ all the time is no good. Some of the most common ones include 人・名・匹 (animates) and 本・枚・台 (inanimates), along with つ and 個.

  • 1
    It is said that つ counting is only up to 10. This limit denotes the max for つ counting or just the hito-futa-mi numbers? 個 also has this limit? – Yuuza Sep 15 '15 at 8:31
  • 5
    @BrunoLopes It's because つ is no longer "productive", which means it doesn't combine with new things anymore. All the combinations of つ with numerals are pre-formed in the Japanese vocabulary, and there are only nine of them (plus とお, where つ is technically absent). 個 is still productive and can attach to larger numbers (from the other system, of course). – snailcar Sep 15 '15 at 8:47
  • So "25 books" could be 本25(にじゅうご)個 ? – Yuuza Sep 15 '15 at 9:34
  • 1
    For 本(book), use [冊]{さつ}... eg 彼女は本を[25冊]{にじゅうごさつ}持っています。 – Chocolate Sep 15 '15 at 13:39
  • @choco But in case 個 is used, as a general object counter, would the sentence be correct? Or it can't be used for books? – Yuuza Sep 15 '15 at 18:09
3

It might work for most objects.

For some other concepts it won't be understandable at all, though, for instance don't use it for:

  • Hours/days/months/etc
  • People (as snailboat said)
  • Number of occurences
  • Distances

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service, privacy policy and cookie policy

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.