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I just learned about 況や and 況して, I tried to search for some detailed grammar point but nothing...

Are they the same? I saw both mean "not to mention..." but they seem different from the way I saw them used.

Can they be used in everyday life?

誰にも倒されない・・・況してお前だ! : I will not be defeated... certainly not by you!

Is it correct if I say that? If yes what does it change to add a 「や」 to 「況して」?

日本の経済はやばいよね。況や起こってる政治問題。: The economy of Japan is in a bad shape... Not to mention the current politic issues.

Is this one correct?

Thanks!

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いわんや is archaic and is rarely used in the everyday language. However, まして or ましてや is still used. Examples would be:

魚も食べられないのだから、まして肉など論外だ
魚も食べられないのだから、ましてや肉など論外だ

They both have the same meaning, but ましてや gives a bit more emphasis and is also a bit more archaic.

To your examples: 誰にも倒されない・・・況してお前だ! does sound ungrammatical, you'd have to say something like 誰にも倒されない・・・況してお前にはな!.

Same for 日本の経済はやばいよね。況や起こってる政治問題. You'd have to change it to e.g.:日本の経済はやばいよね。況や今の政治問題はもっとやばい。

  • First thank you for your great answer that`s exactly what I needed! And yes my sentences sounded wrong to me thanks for correcting! – Tchang Sep 5 '15 at 10:41

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