I am familiar with contraction of の to ん before です (and variants で, だ, でした etc) but I noticed that の is also contracted before 家 in spoken set-phrases like あたしんち and おれんち.

Are there any other instances where の is contracted before some particular nouns? I remember hearing おれんとこ in some anime/jdrama but I might have misheard.

Also, are there any dialects that utilize these types of contractions more frequently than the other colloquial dialects?

  • this sounds like a dialect more so than standard Japanese. I don't believe i've ever heard this before. – Mark Hosang Aug 4 '11 at 3:21
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    @Mark Haven't you heard an anime with title あたしんち? tv-asahi.co.jp/atashi – Lukman Aug 4 '11 at 3:33
  • Wow... apparently it is. You can ignore my first comment then. – Mark Hosang Aug 4 '11 at 4:14

Chakoshi to the rescue! (Chakoshi is a tool for searching both the Aozora and conversational Japanese corpora at Nagoya University.)

A quick search for a "[noun]ん[noun]" pattern in the conversational corpus gives 262 results, most of which are what you are asking about. Broken down, there's actually not much variety in the nouns that follow ん:

とき (99): 高校とき, 研修とき, 外出とき, …

とこ(ろ) (78): そことこ, こっちとこ, 今とこ, ほかとこ, …

中 (62): 頭中, 山中, 電車中, …

ち (11): おれち, おまえち, 人ち, …

This contraction is present in both masculine and feminine speech. I can't think of any other phrases offhand that use ん this way, but I can't say that means they're not out there. If you can think of some, please put in a comment.

As far as dialectical variation goes, the Chakoshi corpus covers a fairly wide range of speakers, but I would have to do a deeper analysis on the results to find out if there are any trends.

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    There's one instance of の->ん contraction before a personal pronoun that I can think of: あんにゃろ (あの野郎), こんにゃろ (この野郎). I don't know if it counts as a "pure" contraction from の to ん, because the "n" consonant of ん is seeping into the next sound "や".. – ento Aug 4 '11 at 16:40

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