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I've recently started learning the passive form of verbs and noticed a few different usages of particles that have been giving me a lot of trouble and I wanted to clarify/confirm.

From what I've gathered from my book and this site, when を is used with the passive form of a verb it implies that a person (subject marked with は) was affected in some way by the individual acting out the verb (marked with に)。

  1. 僕は妹に日記を読まれました。
    → My sister read my diary and it has bothered me.

  2. 僕は妹に部屋を掃除された。
    → My little sister cleaned my room.

From my understanding because 日記 and 部屋 are marked with を it adds the implication that the subject/topic of the sentence (僕) is the owner of the 日記 and 部屋 since he was affected by his little sister acting out the verb. Is this correct?

However, I have seen examples where the subject (marked with が) seems to be the object/undergoes the change carried out by the verb instead of being marked with を. (Both the subject and the direct object can undergo the change?)

  1. 日記が妹に読まれました。
    → The diary was read by my little sister.

  2. 部屋が妹に掃除された。
    → The room has been cleaned by my little sister.

In example 3 and 4, from my understanding these examples imply that the diary was read by the sister and the room was cleaned by the sister (diary and room undergoing the change), However since these are NOT tagged with 僕は(or some other individual) it is not implied that these do not belong to someone else. I.E. The diary being read and the room being cleaned do NOT affect an unnamed individual. And because of this from my understanding sentence 3.) and 4.) would be essentially the same in meaning as 5.) and 6.), basically this is just another way of saying the same thing?

  1. 妹は日記を読みました。
    → My little sister read the diary.

  2. 妹は部屋を掃除した。
    → My little sister cleaned the room.

Is this correct?

Finally there's no way that を in examples 1 and 2 can be replaced with が to make an equivalent sentence is there?

  1. 僕は妹に日記が読まれました。
    → My sister read my diary and it has bothered me.

  2. 僕は妹に部屋が掃除された。
    → My little sister cleaned my room.

Do sentences 7 and 8 make any sense or are they unnatural and grammatically incorrect? Can が and を be used interchangeably at all in these types of sentences?

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From my understanding because 日記 and 部屋 are marked with を it adds the implication that the subject/topic of the sentence (僕) is the owner of the 日記 and 部屋 since he was affected by his little sister acting out the verb. Is this correct?

Yes. But maybe your understanding about why it works in that way is not enough correct. 僕は in your example #1 and #2 is a topicalization of underlying 僕が, which is clear if you put these sentences into subordinate clauses.

1'. 僕妹に日記を読まれたのは、先週でした。
2'. 僕妹に部屋を掃除されたのは、先週でした。
"It was last week that ..."

As you can see, it's essentially the same composition as your #3 and #4.

However since these are NOT tagged with 僕は(or some other individual) it is not implied that these do not belong to someone else. I.E. The diary being read and the room being cleaned do NOT affect an unnamed individual.

As an aside, this statement may not always be true. We often omit the known participants in discourse, so hearers usually bear the possibility in mind. Moreover, lack of topic in your examples makes them more suspicious of existence of hidden topic. (Besides, is it likely that a diary already written belongs to nobody?)

And because of this from my understanding sentence 3.) and 4.) would be essentially the same in meaning as 5.) and 6.), basically this is just another way of saying the same thing?

Not really. Japanese language is quite strict on animacy hierarchy, that prefers human, animal, (maybe robot,) and other "alive" things for the subject of a sentence. It's not impossible to override, but doing so needs reasonable cause. 日記が多くの人に読まれている in user4092's answer is valid, because in this case 多くの人 is almost impersonal that not worth focussing if you're talking about the diary. Your examples, especially #3 is pretty hard to come up with an appropriate situation at first glance, unless that you're an undercover using the diary as an important secret communication tool or something.

Do sentences 7 and 8 make any sense or are they unnatural and grammatically incorrect? Can が and を be used interchangeably at all in these types of sentences?

Very unnatural. The only possible interpretation of #7 and #8 is that 僕は is an "true" は, as in 象は鼻が長い "Elephants have long trunks", but then the semantics could be bizarre: did he suffer some physical damage, or the stigma of "man whose diary is read by his sister"?

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  • As for #7 and #8, your explanation still seems a good reason for using を instead of が. Anyway, a sentence like アンネ・フランク(Anne Frank)は(その)日記が多くの人に読まれている would be fine. Maybe, the verb being ている form is the key, because simple 読まれる would be odd even in this sentence.
    – user4092
    Jan 13, 2015 at 7:10
  • Yes, replacing が with を in #7 and #8 results in #1 and #2. And the アンネ・フランクは日記が sentence reflects the fact we people today deem the diary as an crucial part of her. The stativeness indeed is an important dimension impersonal passives generally have. Jan 13, 2015 at 12:04
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Either 日記が妹に読まれた or 僕は妹に日記が読まれた sound a slip up of …日記を…, otherwise they sound unnatural. (People won't find it so much odd as a slip up.) The structure itself can be used in other examples like この国では日記が多くの人に読まれている, but that specific example is not natural.

You wrote "it implies that a person (subject marked with は) was affected", but that doesn't necessarily mean it should be は, the subject marked with は is only a result of topicalization. In other words, without topicalization, it's が like 私が妹に日記をよまれたら in a conditional clause.

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I agree with all your logic except for example #2. When using the the passive with を, it's only for a negative, or undesirable effect. If someone cleans your room, 99% of the time it's them doing you a favour, so the passive + を does not work for this case. In that case you'd say

  • 僕は妹部屋を掃除してもらった。 → My little sister cleaned my room (for me).
  • 部屋を掃除してくれた。 → Same

If it were a weird scenario where you were this huge slob who preferred living in your filth, and then your sister upset you by cleaning that all up, then passive + を would work, but there would be plenty of other context words and sentences to convey this unusual situation.

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  • Actually, I have countless experiences that my mother cleaned my room in good intention, but ended up totally unorganized for me. Maybe just I'm too untidy. Jan 12, 2015 at 9:13
  • I'm afraid the example sentence makes no sense. してもらった > してくれた
    – user4032
    Jan 15, 2015 at 0:56
  • @l'électeur: Thanks, didn't catch that for some reason.
    – istrasci
    Jan 15, 2015 at 1:45
  • For a counterexample to the claim in this post where を is used with a direct passive, see: japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/27504/… Oct 16, 2020 at 1:19

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