7

Our professor gave us some problems where you are suppose to circle which statement the person is more likely to say. Below is an example.

おまわりさん
    よく道を聞かれます。
    よく道を聞いてもらいます。

I think this means the following.

Policeman
    I am asked for directions a lot.
    I often have people ask me for directions.

However, I don't see how one of these is more likely than the other. Is there a nuance I am missing?

3
  • てもらう can be either causative or passitive. Here it's more like causative. What's the purpose of your perfessor's question? Are you wanting to know the difference between てもらう and られる when they are used as passives?
    – Yang Muye
    Commented Mar 26, 2014 at 16:51
  • @YangMuye, what is passitive?
    – dainichi
    Commented Mar 27, 2014 at 9:18
  • @dainichi, oops, I meant "passive".
    – Yang Muye
    Commented Mar 27, 2014 at 15:00

2 Answers 2

9

Yes, you are missing something important in the second sentence 「よく道を聞いてもらいます。」. Your understanding of the first is good, judging from the TL.

The second sentence, by the way, is 100% grammatical but its content/meaning is more than just weird. It is highly unlikely that a policeman would say it unless there was an incredibly super-shy policeman somewhere.

「よく道を聞いてもらいます。」 = "I often have people ask others for directions FOR me."

This means that the cop not only often gets lost but he also chooses to ask people around to ask others for directions instead of asking them himself when he gets lost. Thus, I called it more than weird.

(I must mention that in highly colloquial speech, the second sentence with 「聞いてもらいます」 is actually used occasionally by a small group of native speakers to mean the virtually same thing as 「聞かれます」. That is, however, a substandard usage and it would be unlikely that your professor would have meant to introduce it in class.)

やる/あげる/もらう/くれる are very important key words (and that is just an understatement). One will not be able to speak or write natural Japanese without being able to use those correctly because with no exaggeration, we use them all day every day.

「~~てもらう」 implies that the person in question is the receiver of a favor or service. In the sentence 「よく道を聞いてもらいます。」, that person is the speaker who is a cop.

1
  • Ah, I see. I guess we learned もらう is to receive and we tend to use the term "I had someone ...". I guess I missed the understanding of "for me". Thanks :) Commented Mar 26, 2014 at 17:30
3

The main thing to take into account here is the ~てもらう that's used in the second sentence. With this construction, the subject receives the benefit of an action.

To illustrate:

母【はは】に晩【ばん】ご飯【はん】を作【つく】ってもらった。 (My mother made dinner for me.)

先生【せんせい】に文章【ぶんしょう】を読【よ】んでもらった。 (The teacher read the sentence for us.)

So in this case, it's not simply that people are asking directions, but that they're asking directions for the policeman. It would imply that the policeman probably gets lost a lot.

You must log in to answer this question.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged .