I am confused by the use of なんか, especially after the て-form of a verb. What do: あきらめてなんかない, 消えてなんかない mean? How do they differ from simply saying あきらめていない, 消えていない? What is the purpose of なんか？
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Paul Richter's answer is partially right in the sense that なんか adds "emphasis against an assumption or statement by others and is used only in negative statements", but more accurately, なんか used here is not the same as 何か, and it means such thing as.
あきらめていない
'I have not given up.'あきらめて なんか (い)ない
'I haven't done such thing as giving up.'
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2I think the point of contention is not what it means but rather where it's derived from. Your answer would be great if you could shed light on its etymology. You still get a +1 for putting forth a clear concise answer though.– Flaw ♦Jan 25, 2012 at 12:03
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2I would state explicitly that なんか・など disparages (the idea/mention of) the previous noun/verb. "Emphasis against" isn't specific/obvious enough, and "such things as" can be misinterpreted as representing nothing more than a list. But I think the idea of using "such a thing" is a good one for representing this nuance of なんか・など, so +1. Jan 25, 2012 at 12:09
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@sawa Btw is it true that [A]なんか always attaches a derogatory feel to [A] (like in the example sentence above)?– PacerierMay 25, 2012 at 5:53
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@Not necessarily. It can mean that [A] is far out of the scope of reality or reach or the context.
結婚なんかまだ考えられません– user458May 25, 2012 at 9:11
Not really different from this. Basically a weak は.
For your examples, they're essentially the same as あきらめては(い)ない and 消えては(い)ない with the added nuance of なんか that the other post explains.
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4I do not think that introducing は helps understanding the construct. あきらめてなんかない is closer to あきらめてない than あきらめてはいない or あきらめてはない. (あきらめてはない sounds less natural to me than the other three, but this is a separate issue.) Jan 25, 2012 at 0:56
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For me なんか keeps his meaning whatever its position. In this case, it's often to make your point. It can express surprise, anger etc...
あきらめてなんかない => I did not give up "and it's not close".
あきらめていない => I did not give up.
なんか (何か）means "something" so in this case it can be taken as "or anything of the sort", "...it's nothing like that", or "in any way". It gives emphasis against an assumption or statement by others and is used only in negative statements.
I would always include the い (...なんかいない rather than ...なんかない).
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2If I am not mistaken, なんか in the question is different from なんか which means “something” as in “なんか飲む?” The latter is なにか with /i/ dropped, but なんか in the question cannot be replaced with なにか. Jan 25, 2012 at 1:09
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2It's not syntactically the same (it couldn't be replaced), but morphologically it's clear so. 「あきらめてなんかはいない」 could be derived from: 「あきらめてるような何かはしていない」"I am not doing anything like giving up". Jan 25, 2012 at 1:22
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2dic.yahoo.co.jp/… 「あいつなんか（、）嫌い」「あいつ、なんか嫌い」 are completely different. Paul, could you elaborate on that "syntactically the same" and "morphologically the same" mean, exactly? Replaced and mean the same, or replaced and still be a valid sentence?– dainichiJan 25, 2012 at 5:32
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2dainichi's yahoo dictionary reference clearly states that なんか is a contraction of なに + か。Here are the four usage examples it gives, and my plausible translations:
「この着物なんかお似合いです」A kimono such as this suits you.「映画なんかよく行く」I go to places such as the movies.「彼の言うことなんか聞くな」Don't listen to things such as what he says.「君になんかわからない」Someone such as you wouldn't understand.The last two are exactly the same as the usage in the OP, as is the second definition. Jan 25, 2012 at 9:50 -
2If the link I provided above is reliable, the etymology of ～なんか is なにか, even if semantically it is more similar to ～など. I think this is supported by the fact that the dialectal なんぞ is used as both ～なんか and なん（に）か～– dainichiJan 26, 2012 at 0:39
お金なんかいらない?