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Yes, this sounds like a really confusing question. But I suddenly realized that する seemed to be a perfectly regular 上二段活用 (kami nidan; upper bigrade) verb with a stem of s-:

未然形: し (as in しない)
連用形: し (as in して, します)
終止形: す (fossil in words like 愛す, 決す)
連体形: する
已然形: すれ (as in すれば)
命令形: しろ (せよ seems mostly dead)

Is this a coincidence, or does サ変 have any sort of etymological connection with 上二段?

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To add to the previous answer, there is no clear-cut distinction between 'regular' and 'irregular'; also, irregularities can often be explained and may hint at an old form or conjugational system. Eg strong verbs in English and German (ablaut conjugation), be-was-is-am (merger of different verbs).

As for ある, while *あらない is not used in modern Japanese, grammar (conjugational patterns) would predict this form and I would not be surprised to find it in some dialect. Also, we can negate ある via the 未然形: 非【あ】らず.

This slight irregularity in ある is considered insignificant enough to be classified as a 'regular' verb, but never mind by which name we choose to call it. There are also other slight irregularities: いらっしゃイます (not いらっしゃります), 乞ウた (not こった), 行ッた(not いいた).

The origin of these different conjugation paradigms is unclear. According to one hypothesis, many 一段 and 二段 verbs were formed by processes such as adding ある, 得る; and that there is an older conjugation paradigm explaining irregular forms.

Without going into details, observe that 3/4 of all verbs in Old Japanese are 四段; and a few 'irregular' words such 死ぬ・死ぬる・死に・死な(in the order 終・体・連・未 base) hint at an older 四段-like conjugation with a 連体形 ending in る.

See 'Bjarke Frellesvig and John Whitman, 2008, Proto-Japanese: Issues and Prospects' for a technical discussion (cited in his book 'A history of the Japanese language', I have not read it.)

See https://archive.org/stream/historicalgramma00sansuoft#page/150/mode/2up for a dated and less-technical discussion.

To summarize, it seems likely that your observations are not coincidence and that there is a relation between the different conjugation paradigms, but the details may be lost in the mist of time.

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The 未然形 isn't just し, there are せ (eg せん, せず, negation) and さ (eg させる, される).

Actually if you look at 文語 the 未然形 was actually せ (and the 命令形 just せよ).

Finally, if you consider that the 終止形 is す and that you can't form the potential (it is できる instead) while you can for the modern verbs coming from kami-nidan verbs...

Probably too brief, but I hope it will help.

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But you can't form the negative of ある (you must use ない) yet it is considered regular 五段活用... –  user54609 Jan 1 at 19:09
    
See this question concerning ない: japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/12644/… –  blutorange Jan 1 at 23:04
    
I would put the emphasis on the multiple stems and the different 未然形 you had in 文語, not on the absence of the potential (you're right: as blutorange too stated in his/her answer, it's probably not meaningful). –  Kokoroatari Jan 2 at 2:40

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